A tip isn't optional
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bgsmith33 — 16 years ago(August 10, 2009 09:13 PM)
For those of you who don't tip:
When you go to a restaurant that has servers, you are, in effect, hiring the person who waits on you. You are expected to pay them directly in the form of a tip. The advantage of this system is that you can pay your server based on how well they did their job. Servers who do a bad job make less money, and vice versa.
If tipping wasn't expected, restaurants would have to pay the wait staff more, and this would be reflected in the price of the food. The servers would make the same money, but bad servers and good servers would all get paid the same, which means poorer service for you.
If you won't tip, then you should dine out only at establishments where tipping isn't expected (McDonald's, Subway, etc.). In America, a tip for a server isn't a little extra reward for unusually good serviceit's the server's primary income.
I've been a manager at a bar/diner, and if someone stiffed a server, I would ask the customer if there was a problem with their meal. In a few cases, customers told me that they didn't believe in leaving a tip, and I told them that I didn't want their patronage. None of them returned, and I say good riddance.
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HSJDesign — 16 years ago(August 10, 2009 11:12 PM)
I just imagined the famous american anthem theme playing in the background while reading that speach. Good stuff.
Agreed with it, though I've never waited. I always leave 15% if the service is okay, and more if it's better then that.
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Kareiyasu — 16 years ago(August 23, 2009 11:23 AM)
False, tipping is completely optional unless worked into the fee (more than a group of 8 or more). It's called gratuity for a reason. Look the word up if you wish, either way tipping is completely OPTIONAL. No, I'am not hiring a person to serve me, they are WORKING, performing a task they are already getting paid for. In the end it's freedom that allows me to go to whichever restaurant I feel and not tip.
You can refuse customer's from further service but would that be good for your revenue stream? no, in fact it would be stupid. I wouldn't care if a few customer's didn't tip aslong as they kept coming to my bar/diner to keep the revenue going.
Plus you're making mountains out of mole hills, a few cusmtomer's not tipping will not ruin you or your waiters, you need to step down off your pedastal.
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xample-1 — 14 years ago(December 03, 2011 11:49 PM)
You have obviously never been a server. Go back to these places that you don't tip at and see how good the service is. Where I work if I know somebody doesn't tip they get the minimum service. Why should I bust my a** when I'm getting no tip regardless?
PS: The OP hit the nail on the head when explaining that if nobody tipped, every server in America would quit until they were paid more than minimum wage. This would result in the price being INCLUDED in the price of the food. Most people don't understand this concept. TIPS = TO INSURE PROPER SERVICE -
dougbrigg — 12 years ago(December 06, 2013 08:55 AM)
Why can't you just do a professional job for your salary like everyone else is expected to?
What makes you so special that you feel you should be paid twice or have a customer subsidise your wages?
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OnlyCaleb1 — 10 years ago(October 20, 2015 09:33 AM)
Yes, they're making 2 dollars an hour.unless the tips don't average out to the federal minimum wagewhich is something people who justify tipping conveniently leave out.
The truth is, waiters actually make more than most people at entry level jobs. The least they'll make is equal to what someone who's a cashier at McDonalds is making. They can make far more in a given night though.
No waiter has ever made 2 dollars an hour. That would be illegal, hence the term MINIMUM Wage. -
ClintJCL — 13 years ago(September 03, 2012 02:26 PM)
Uh no. They are paid $2/hour because minimum wage is lower for servers because they are assumed to get tips. Look it up.
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kolchak-thenightstalker — 16 years ago(September 19, 2009 09:10 PM)
it just so happens that I tip when I feel service was good. if service was bad i do not tip.
if the server is upset than i would certainly be happy to sit down and explain why i didn't leave a tip (i.e. my food was cold by the time you served me, service was so slow, etc.)
the word tips stands for:
T - To
I - Insure
P - Proper
S - Service
Servers have to realize that a tip is for doing a good job, for doing above and beyond. you don't get a tip for just showing up to work.