was 'the rape' truly rape? -Comments welcome
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laurie001 — 18 years ago(November 11, 2007 09:19 PM)
back to the original question, of course it was rape. Would he be prosecuted in court?
Of course not.
Justice systems all across the world are exceptionally prejudice against prostitutes of any kind. The rape prosecution percentages in the UK and the US are mind-bogglingly tiny. And they're even smaller for prositutes being raped. Just as it happens in the movie, in real life a prostitute wouldn't even consider going to the authorities- There'd simply be no point. -
gluba2000 — 18 years ago(December 30, 2007 06:10 PM)
It wasn't Neil's fault. Nobody asks to get raped.
You never know what you'll do if you're raped. Some people fight whereas others just freeze up and block out till it's done.
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phasmatrope — 17 years ago(March 07, 2009 02:50 AM)
You've got to be kidding me I don't see how you could not see that scene as rape. If you've locked a door and someone picks it (even in their own house), then immediately proceeds to force themself on you while you're face down in a bathtub while hitting you, that's not exactly consensual, pal.
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cota-2 — 17 years ago(March 16, 2009 06:17 PM)
Maybe it's because I'm a guy, or maybe it's because I read the book (in which the rape scene is much more difficult to stomach) but I found the rape in Mysterious Skin far more difficult to watch than the one in Irreversible. I think the distance of the camera in Irreversible may have also made it less claustrophobic and oppressive than in mysterious skin, where you are trapped in the bathroom with them.
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aicfan85 — 16 years ago(February 26, 2010 04:37 AM)
there is never a good reason for an 8 minute rape scene. as soon as the audience gets whats going on a good director will know when to cut the scene. if it keeps going for 8 minutes it means the director has something to prove and needs to have more taste.
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Sanctuary20 — 18 years ago(October 31, 2007 11:02 AM)
Tell me something, Miss Destiny Jade:
how would you feel if, say I met you in a club and we got drunk and I invited you to my house?
And let's say you would fancy me so you would come to my place we would start kissing taking your clothes off and then I would start punching you and stick you-know-what in your mouth and raped you?
Would not that NOT rape because you WILLINGLY came to my house to have sex with me? and willingly removed your clothes? And willingly drink alcohol with me?
Because his was a male prostitute doesn't change the fact that he was forced to have sex with that guy and he beat him up too.
I am sure he could have pressed charges against that horrible guy.
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Grimm-Grimm — 18 years ago(December 18, 2007 07:20 PM)
Yes it was rape. The fact that this thread exists is disturbing. No one deserves to be raped. People who are victims of rape crimes did not ask for it.
Yes, I think so as well.
At first I thought that the poster may have been asking because he/she was in school to become an attorney. That I could understand wanting to look for a way to prove rape did occur. I don't even want to imagine if the question was asked because such did occur and the question is being asked for criminal defense attorney strategies.
Then another poster thought maybe it was because maybe it happened. Often times people who are raped go thru a lot of thoughts trying to convince themselves all sorts of things, but fact remains what occurred was rape.
Anyone who says "he asked for it" is either a troll that likes sick jokes or someone who seriously needs some help. I've seen people who are the "he/she asked for it" type. My father is one of them. They are usually very troubled angry people throwing blame about.
To post the thread just to see what people would say is pointless and sad. I'd like to think that it was posted in order to find ways an attorney could help prosecute a guilty offender.
Too many times rapists go free in court. Not to mention that most rapes are never reported. And when a rapist gets away with it, he goes on to do it again and again. It takes a very strong person who has already been beaten down both physically and mentally, to stand up and fight back in court. And shame on those who rather then praise and help, sit back and throw blame around.
If any future attorneys need advice here is some:
Juries aren't sympathetic to prostitutes because they have no understanding and compassion for them. But YOU can give them that. You have to show them why and how these people become prostitutes.
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emmeaki — 18 years ago(December 04, 2007 05:09 PM)
Let's not forget that Neil said "There are certain things I don't do", (or something to that effect) before he went into the restroom. Then the john came into the restroom and said "You're getting screwed." (He didn't say "screwed" but IMDB censored the F word.)
He knew that Neil didn't want to receive anal sex and he forced him to do it anyway. How could this NOT be rape? I don't care if a hundred people paid to have sex with Neil, this man forced himself on him. If this was a heterosexual couple and not a prostitute/john situation, no one would even question whether or not this was rape.
And there was nothing consensual about being beaten over the head with a shampoo bottle and thrown unconscious onto the pavement.