Wtf is with this religious crap??
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Melon_Smasher — 13 years ago(April 29, 2012 08:43 AM)
LOL. People like you are pathetic. As far as I'm concerned, people who try infringe on MY rights, or the rights of others (like the right to you know not be murdered or mugged. Or in this case, be forced as a child soldier), automatically forfeit any and all rights they may have had in my eyes.
Things like "non violence" and "good acts" do not APPLY to the people I have just mentioned. Once they cross that line, the fact that they're human is secondary to the fact that they're trying to harm me or others. And I advocate non-violence, so long as that only applies to people not trying commit acts of violence on me. -
Melon_Smasher — 13 years ago(May 19, 2012 02:04 AM)
I'm agnostic. Violence against men like Kony is a necessary evil, negotiating does not work, you can ask the many villages in Africa. Killing, in and its self is always regrettable, but it is not always morally reprehensible.
For example, someone breaks into your house in the dead of night to murder you and your family. Do you
A: let him murder you and your family because killing him would be "hypocritical"
B:do what it takes to protect your family, even as far as killing the intruder (notice that I say "kill" not "murder").
It's okay though, you clearly have no interest in rational discussion, you're just being intellectually dishonest to try rationalize your bigoted hatred of religion. -
salimy3k — 13 years ago(May 19, 2012 10:13 PM)
"Violence against men like Kony is a necessary evil, negotiating does not work, you can ask the many villages in Africa."
That's funny. Kony is by all intents and purposes dead - just like your CIA-funded double agent Osama - who was killed by Mujahideen remnants back in 2002 who realized that it was Osama who was sabotaging their weapons dumps in an effort to prolong the Afghan Civil War - Osama only became a 'big' player after US negotiations to build an oil pipeline in Afghanistan stalled and those 'fake' tapes where Osama confesses to bombing The Twin Towers (even though there is NO way a bunch of guys who were failing to learn how to pilot a light aircraft would ever be able to pilot a big airliner - much less bring down a building built to withstand a Jumbo Jet crashing into it) - same as Kony was a non-entity when Sudanese forces were buying arms from the US (heck, the US even made The Sudanese government get public support - which was fast eroding - when they bombed a milk factory in the late 90s and then claimed it to be a 'weapons dump' - this was a significant development as there was a Coalition that was opposing the government that would have won the coming elections had the US not bombed the factory) - the minute they stopped buying arms, suddenly they were the 'bad guys'.
Listen, every credible African historian has stated that Kony has been dead since 2006. Even The ICC has dropped all charges against him after certification of his death was issued. This is nothing but a scam to grab African resources because China (and lately The USSR) have been making a play for Africa and have been forging partnerships with local governments. They have MASSIVE deposits of black gold in the mountains - hmm, gee, yet ANOTHER war for oil again?
"For example, someone breaks into your house in the dead of night to murder you and your family. Do you
A: let him murder you and your family because killing him would be "hypocritical"
B:do what it takes to protect your family, even as far as killing the intruder (notice that I say "kill" not "murder")."
Excellent analogy! I sincerely hope you remember this when YOUR troops invade another country to steal their oil or for other spurious reasons and the natives fight back and massacre your imperialist forces. After all, it's not 'murder', it's 'just killing' right? Say, isn't there a commandment that says 'Thou shalt not kill'?
"It's okay though, you clearly have no interest in rational discussion, you're just being intellectually dishonest to try rationalize your bigoted hatred of religion."
Rational discussion? You're kidding right? I just raise the issue of hypocrisy and you start playing the victim amounts to a 'rational discussion'?! Intellectual Dishonesty? Isn't that a bit like claiming that killing in self-defense is alright if you are invaded yet labelling any foreigner who does as you say against US forces a 'terrorist'? And lastly, 'bigoted hatred of religion' - what a joke! I have ZERO hatred for religion as a whole, I Do view the hypocrisy that exists in religion in a dim light taht's all. Your victim complex shines through! -
Melon_Smasher — 13 years ago(May 20, 2012 12:21 AM)
Wait what? Last time I checked, Sam Childers was NOT the American government. Look, I get what you're saying and I agree with a majority of it. I'm also aware Kony is probably dead, but my point still stands, if you're defending a bunch of innocent children from a mad man, killing to defend them is not morally reprehensible. It does not matter if violence was the tool used to defend them. Even if Sam Childers is a Christian, killing senselessly, or out of hatred or malice is what "thou shalt not kill" applies to, not defending the innocent.
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RightersBloc — 13 years ago(May 23, 2012 10:14 PM)
That's funny. Kony is by all intents and purposes dead - just like your CIA-funded double agent Osama - who was killed by Mujahideen remnants back in 2002 who realized that it was Osama who was sabotaging their weapons dumps in an effort to prolong the Afghan Civil War - Osama only became a 'big' player after US negotiations to build an oil pipeline in Afghanistan stalled and those 'fake' tapes where Osama confesses to bombing The Twin Towers (even though there is NO way a bunch of guys who were failing to learn how to pilot a light aircraft would ever be able to pilot a big airliner - much less bring down a building built to withstand a Jumbo Jet crashing into it) - same as Kony was a non-entity when Sudanese forces were buying arms from the US (heck, the US even made The Sudanese government get public support - which was fast eroding - when they bombed a milk factory in the late 90s and then claimed it to be a 'weapons dump' - this was a significant development as there was a Coalition that was opposing the government that would have won the coming elections had the US not bombed the factory) - the minute they stopped buying arms, suddenly they were the 'bad guys'.
yet another conspiracy theorist.
Bypassing all of the other delusional rants, please enlighten me, since i thought i stood there and watched the second plane crash into the World Trade Centerwhat actually happened???
i am anxiously awaiting any salient response you might muster while hiding behind your computer in pathetic anonymity. -
chaoswhistler — 13 years ago(July 08, 2012 07:34 AM)
There is no part in the movie where he changed to be non-violent. He changed to take care of his family, to stop using drugs, and to care about others in a deeper way.
There's also no part in the movie where he preaches non-violence to native Africans. It amuses you because it's a joke you made up for yourself, in your own head; it does not exist in the movie. -
JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies — 13 years ago(August 05, 2012 06:31 AM)
it was the fact that this man who was violent and had supposedly 'changed' had no qualms using violence to achieve his means after his 'big' change of heart
I don't know why that would bother you, though. Religion, religious views, etc. are very complex; it does no good to wish they were simplistic and wish they would easily fit your personal requirements for avoiding ideological "contradictions". It's important to try to understand things from different perspectives if you want to understand anyone in this world other than yourself.
Does it bother you also learning about the Crusades, say? You'd have to avoid a big chunk of the history of the western world to avoid being bothered in this way.
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BaronVonSwollen — 13 years ago(June 17, 2012 11:21 AM)
I also found this to be thinly-veiled religious propaganda with a pro-democracy undertone. I couldn't help be reminded of The Cross and the Switchblade, a sleazy "bible will fix impoverished urban areas" Jesus: Your 1-Stop Solution epic, starring the Great White Dope of the 70's, Pat Boone. A better title for this film- Plan Preacher from Outer Space.
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BluLuBoyle — 13 years ago(June 17, 2012 08:27 PM)
propaganda with a pro-democracy undertone
Hmmmm, what exactly is a "pro-democracy undertone"??
What would you prefer it bepro-tyrannical despot ruled? pro-communist??
In your world is 'democracy" a "bad word"?? -
BaronVonSwollen — 13 years ago(June 18, 2012 03:42 AM)
religious propaganda with a pro-democracy undertone
If you're going to quote me, don't omit key words.
Pro-democracy as in The American Way. Since democracy is democracy in name only, it is a bad word. Considering there are very few democracies on Earth, and most are failing, while there are many evil empires that are flourishing, you might want to reconsider your naive world view.
It's only a movie -
BluLuBoyle — 13 years ago(June 18, 2012 08:56 PM)
Considering there are very few democracies on Earth, and most are failing, while there are many evil empires that are flourishing,
Funny, i assumed you would be that stereotypical video game worm who pecks anonymously behind your keyboard while never held accountable for your pathetic delusional rants.
However, now i realize you are actually an over the hill sociopath who never "got his shot" so cynicism and hate dominate all your processes. You see the previous years as wasted and all pursuits as failures so now you pathetically relegate yourself to the couch while you await the "evil empires to take over".
There is still hope for you though, seek the advice of a professional and perhaps you can become a successful contributer to life on earth instead of a useless sucker of O2. -
Umakemyheadswim — 13 years ago(June 27, 2012 02:30 AM)
"religious propaganda with a pro-democracy undertone
If you're going to quote me, don't omit key words.
Pro-democracy as in The American Way. Since democracy is democracy in name only, it is a bad word. Considering there are very few democracies on Earth, and most are failing, while there are many evil empires that are flourishing, you might want to reconsider your naive world view.
It's only a movie "
You're right. We should end democracy now. We should go to communism or why not a monarchy! -
BluLuBoyle — 13 years ago(June 28, 2012 01:19 PM)
you kind of missed the entire point of what i was calling the previous idiot out on and in doing so made yourself look equally imbecilic.
I wasn't speaking of America, The US, "The American Way" or anything remotley US specific.
The discussions centered around the dumbs*#t's application of the term in the same context with "religious propoganda". Of course you, armed with your 12th grade education, decided to seize the soap box for a rant about your disdain for America.
Cliche and pathetic.