Wtf is with this religious crap??
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Melon_Smasher — 13 years ago(May 20, 2012 12:21 AM)
Wait what? Last time I checked, Sam Childers was NOT the American government. Look, I get what you're saying and I agree with a majority of it. I'm also aware Kony is probably dead, but my point still stands, if you're defending a bunch of innocent children from a mad man, killing to defend them is not morally reprehensible. It does not matter if violence was the tool used to defend them. Even if Sam Childers is a Christian, killing senselessly, or out of hatred or malice is what "thou shalt not kill" applies to, not defending the innocent.
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RightersBloc — 13 years ago(May 23, 2012 10:14 PM)
That's funny. Kony is by all intents and purposes dead - just like your CIA-funded double agent Osama - who was killed by Mujahideen remnants back in 2002 who realized that it was Osama who was sabotaging their weapons dumps in an effort to prolong the Afghan Civil War - Osama only became a 'big' player after US negotiations to build an oil pipeline in Afghanistan stalled and those 'fake' tapes where Osama confesses to bombing The Twin Towers (even though there is NO way a bunch of guys who were failing to learn how to pilot a light aircraft would ever be able to pilot a big airliner - much less bring down a building built to withstand a Jumbo Jet crashing into it) - same as Kony was a non-entity when Sudanese forces were buying arms from the US (heck, the US even made The Sudanese government get public support - which was fast eroding - when they bombed a milk factory in the late 90s and then claimed it to be a 'weapons dump' - this was a significant development as there was a Coalition that was opposing the government that would have won the coming elections had the US not bombed the factory) - the minute they stopped buying arms, suddenly they were the 'bad guys'.
yet another conspiracy theorist.
Bypassing all of the other delusional rants, please enlighten me, since i thought i stood there and watched the second plane crash into the World Trade Centerwhat actually happened???
i am anxiously awaiting any salient response you might muster while hiding behind your computer in pathetic anonymity. -
chaoswhistler — 13 years ago(July 08, 2012 07:34 AM)
There is no part in the movie where he changed to be non-violent. He changed to take care of his family, to stop using drugs, and to care about others in a deeper way.
There's also no part in the movie where he preaches non-violence to native Africans. It amuses you because it's a joke you made up for yourself, in your own head; it does not exist in the movie. -
JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies — 13 years ago(August 05, 2012 06:31 AM)
it was the fact that this man who was violent and had supposedly 'changed' had no qualms using violence to achieve his means after his 'big' change of heart
I don't know why that would bother you, though. Religion, religious views, etc. are very complex; it does no good to wish they were simplistic and wish they would easily fit your personal requirements for avoiding ideological "contradictions". It's important to try to understand things from different perspectives if you want to understand anyone in this world other than yourself.
Does it bother you also learning about the Crusades, say? You'd have to avoid a big chunk of the history of the western world to avoid being bothered in this way.
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BaronVonSwollen — 13 years ago(June 17, 2012 11:21 AM)
I also found this to be thinly-veiled religious propaganda with a pro-democracy undertone. I couldn't help be reminded of The Cross and the Switchblade, a sleazy "bible will fix impoverished urban areas" Jesus: Your 1-Stop Solution epic, starring the Great White Dope of the 70's, Pat Boone. A better title for this film- Plan Preacher from Outer Space.
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BluLuBoyle — 13 years ago(June 17, 2012 08:27 PM)
propaganda with a pro-democracy undertone
Hmmmm, what exactly is a "pro-democracy undertone"??
What would you prefer it bepro-tyrannical despot ruled? pro-communist??
In your world is 'democracy" a "bad word"?? -
BaronVonSwollen — 13 years ago(June 18, 2012 03:42 AM)
religious propaganda with a pro-democracy undertone
If you're going to quote me, don't omit key words.
Pro-democracy as in The American Way. Since democracy is democracy in name only, it is a bad word. Considering there are very few democracies on Earth, and most are failing, while there are many evil empires that are flourishing, you might want to reconsider your naive world view.
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BluLuBoyle — 13 years ago(June 18, 2012 08:56 PM)
Considering there are very few democracies on Earth, and most are failing, while there are many evil empires that are flourishing,
Funny, i assumed you would be that stereotypical video game worm who pecks anonymously behind your keyboard while never held accountable for your pathetic delusional rants.
However, now i realize you are actually an over the hill sociopath who never "got his shot" so cynicism and hate dominate all your processes. You see the previous years as wasted and all pursuits as failures so now you pathetically relegate yourself to the couch while you await the "evil empires to take over".
There is still hope for you though, seek the advice of a professional and perhaps you can become a successful contributer to life on earth instead of a useless sucker of O2. -
Umakemyheadswim — 13 years ago(June 27, 2012 02:30 AM)
"religious propaganda with a pro-democracy undertone
If you're going to quote me, don't omit key words.
Pro-democracy as in The American Way. Since democracy is democracy in name only, it is a bad word. Considering there are very few democracies on Earth, and most are failing, while there are many evil empires that are flourishing, you might want to reconsider your naive world view.
It's only a movie "
You're right. We should end democracy now. We should go to communism or why not a monarchy! -
BluLuBoyle — 13 years ago(June 28, 2012 01:19 PM)
you kind of missed the entire point of what i was calling the previous idiot out on and in doing so made yourself look equally imbecilic.
I wasn't speaking of America, The US, "The American Way" or anything remotley US specific.
The discussions centered around the dumbs*#t's application of the term in the same context with "religious propoganda". Of course you, armed with your 12th grade education, decided to seize the soap box for a rant about your disdain for America.
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Korios — 13 years ago(August 31, 2012 11:47 PM)
Apparently your genious level intellect, your ultra high education and by and large the Supreme Human Being of your existence, the one that looks everyone else like ants, missed the sarcasm of this guy. Keep on calling everyone else pathetic, imbecile and uneducated mate; this road will lead you down the drain before you can spell BluLuBoyle.
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BluLuBoyle — 13 years ago(September 24, 2012 08:34 PM)
Apparently your genious level intellect, your ultra high education and by and large the Supreme Human Being of your existence, the one that looks everyone else like ants, missed the sarcasm of this guy. Keep on calling everyone else pathetic, imbecile and uneducated mate;
Re-read the guys comment, it wasn't sarcasm, either you didn't follow the thread or you are incapable of understanding the genesis of the discussion.
Thats "genesis", not "genius"which you couldn't spell correctly either.
Get back under your rock.Mate. -
saynosecretidentity — 13 years ago(August 09, 2012 02:13 PM)
Not to point out the obvious, but the movie is called "Machine Gun Preacher", to ask "WTF is with this religious crap??" is like watching Titanic and saying "WTF is with this giant sinking ship??"
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Korios — 13 years ago(August 31, 2012 11:06 AM)
The film was a biography, so it was naturally supposed to move around Sam Childers' life. If Sam was Charles Manson reborn the film would look entirely different. With that said, and letting be known that I am totally non-religious, I did not the see the film as a "religious indocrination". I do not know what happened in real Sam's life but in the film they took a balanced approach. I do not want to spoil anything (possible minor SPOILERS ahead) but particularly towards the end the plot was not so much focused on religion as on Sam himself, his inner struggle. And eventually it is certainly not Jesus that "saves" him.
Jesus had all along been a scheme to feel less guilt and also have a "divine justification" for his actions.
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