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What the F happened to Eli Roth?

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    fourthwall1-2 — 10 years ago(October 12, 2015 11:54 AM)

    I don't thik formula is under question. his stories are still fresh when comparing them to each other. He level of quality is down for the films he makes. any of his previus films have had solid performances. not Oscar worthy. but they did what they set out to do. Green Inferno had some cringe worthy performances from Sky Ferreria, and Levy.
    The movie looks super cheap like it was shot on a camera from Best Buy. Canon cinema cameras suck.

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      C_Lee_2 — 10 years ago(October 13, 2015 06:41 AM)

      I very much agree about his stories. Camera work is another thing, looked OK to me, but I've seen others objecting, too. Sky Ferreria though I agree, she gave a lousy performance, but she had a very minor part, maybe totaling a few minutes overall? I wouldn't downcheck the movie much based on a very minor character.
      Levy, now, I disagree. I thought was good at acting out a very, very nasty character. Villains are sometimes easier to perform, and script, than heroes. Alejandro's character is really somewhat different from "traditional" villains. His character starts out ambiguously enough, then has some scripted parts that are in general increasingly dark and douchey (if that's a word) but with enough ambiguity that left a lot of folks wondering. There were even admirable places for him along the way. Then the character went into total douche territory. Nasty character to act out, but Levy did it and did it well. All in all, I think Alejandro is a major ultra "bad guy" as bad guys go, but was a really complex, well-scripted character, difficult character to perform. I give high props to Ariel Levy for a job well done.

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        grindovermatter — 10 years ago(October 11, 2015 11:41 AM)

        This movie wasn't great, but it was easily better than Cabin Fever or Hostel.
        http://www.pro-rock.com/

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          jackthehack — 10 years ago(October 11, 2015 03:20 PM)

          He is the same as he always has been. Substituting gore for suspense and calling it horror. And it's not even that shocking.
          A very mediocre director.

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            fourthwall1-2 — 10 years ago(October 14, 2015 11:00 AM)

            Gore is a category for horror films. You may not like it and that's okay.
            It's pretty shocking. The amount of people covering their eyes or turning away when the first guy gets eaten wasn't tame.

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              jackthehack — 10 years ago(October 14, 2015 05:07 PM)

              I don't mind gore. In fact, I admit I watch gory movies from time to time. But it has to be one of the items on the menu. The Thing by John Carpenter is incredibly gory but it has some of the most suspenseful scenes ever.
              Roth's best work to date remains the Thanksgiving trailer from Grindhouse. It was wickedly funny, gory and had some disturbing moments. It showed potential which he hasn't realized yet.
              What really annoys me is the poster of Clown claiming as 'from master of horror, Eli Roth'. If Roth is to be considered the master of horror, then I guess we should ring the alarm bells.
              I don't doubt Roth's passion for the genre but he has done zilch to be considered as master.
              Even Fulci who is mocked for making gore flicks had a knack of extracting suspense. Roth is yet to demonstrate that.

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                xwolven — 10 years ago(December 02, 2015 11:37 AM)

                Agree with all of this 100% You took the words right out of my head ever since Hostel. Eli Roth is very very average in the history of great horror film directors. And John Carpenter is a true master! The Thing is one of my all time favorite horror films. Pretty much everything Carpenter made was excellent up until Ghosts on Mars. He kinda lost it at that point. Also that vampires movie he did. Can't remember which came out first.
                Calling Eli Roth a master of horror is just regurgitating false marketing propaganda

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                  sqrrlface — 10 years ago(March 24, 2016 03:43 PM)

                  Would this even be considered a "gore movie"? I tend to think of films like The Burning Moon and Flower of Flesh and Blood as "gore movies", not this. You can't have a movie be rated R and call it a "gore movie". It's like when people say that Rob Zombie creates the most shocking movies when really they are tame in comparison to the true contenders.

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                    psychopathyrd — 10 years ago(October 17, 2015 09:12 PM)

                    Then go watch Paranormal Activity 17. Gore is a huge reason I enjoy the horror genre. The paranormal ghost nonsense mostly uninteresting to me.
                    Since you've commented on Roth's previous work, you must be a glutton for punishment. (Or you just like to B*tch and moan)

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                      activista — 10 years ago(November 07, 2015 02:49 PM)

                      @psychopathyd
                      Honestly, gore in horror movies has become tired and boring as all hell nowit used to be shocking, not it's just something horror filmmakers throw in when they can't come up with a really decent story around,that's all. Gore has become a shortcut for some wanna-be horror filmmakers with no talentor those who haven't shone any yet. .

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                        mel2000 — 10 years ago(January 12, 2016 04:59 AM)

                        Then go watch Paranormal Activity 17. Gore is a huge reason I enjoy the horror genre. The paranormal ghost nonsense mostly uninteresting to me.
                        Obviously you're not a fan of suspense or dread buildup. Gore on its own is a shallow premise for watching a movie. Your choice and your loss.

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                          psychopathyrd — 9 years ago(April 14, 2016 01:02 AM)

                          Obviously you're not a fan of suspense or dread buildup. Gore on its own is a shallow premise for watching a movie. Your choice and your loss.
                          I'm a fan of suspense when the subject matter is something that has or could actually happen in real life. Without that aspect, it's not even horror to me. Maybe for a teenage girl these ghost/possession movies are "horrifying." I'm more inclined to like the serial killer, slasher-esque horror films, for the realism factor.
                          I prefer slashers with actual maniacal killers. Also suspense and gore do not have to be mutually exclusive. In fact, for an epic horror movie fitting my tastes both are necessary. It's all about proportion and execution.

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                            joodense — 9 years ago(July 26, 2016 08:52 PM)

                            That's what I was thinking when's the last time y'all watched cabin fever or hostel? His movies have always been this goofy. That said I wonder what it says about him he likes to put his wife in these horrible situations in his films. I do enjoy them. Knock knock was more fun tho

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                              BrainGremlin — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 03:11 PM)

                              You shall fetch me your universe's
                              ultimate
                              cup of coffee.
                              Black!
                              You have five Eaaarth minutes. Make it perfect!
                              Sad story. You got a smoke?

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                                grindovermatter — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 03:13 PM)

                                FETID!
                                http://www.pro-rock.com/

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                                  BrainGremlin — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 04:43 PM)

                                  How
                                  dare
                                  they present this to me? FOUL! They hide their finest bean!
                                  Sad story. You got a smoke?

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                                    grindovermatter — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 05:40 PM)

                                    Prepare the attack!
                                    http://www.pro-rock.com/

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                                      grindovermatter — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 03:14 PM)

                                      Henry Swanson's my name and excitement's my game!
                                      http://www.pro-rock.com/

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                                        BrainGremlin — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 04:36 PM)

                                        high five
                                        Sad story. You got a smoke?

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                                          grazeswithgoats — 10 years ago(October 13, 2015 09:04 PM)

                                          You should check out Hemlock Grove before writing him off. I'm a long time fan of ER and it will probably go down in my book as his best work. Jury is still out on that as the final season, 3, is about to be released. And the people showing up to bash ER are just like soooooooo lame.
                                          So says The Goats!
                                          http://www.imdb.com/list/Lx63i1kQerA/

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