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JSSTyger — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 02:10 PM)
Speaking of kiddie, I bet you thought the explosion at the courthouse was awesome because F Superman getting a chance to explain himself. Kiddies like explosions over "boring" dialogue. Kiddies also don't require good reasons to have their favorite superheros fight. HAHA you like the world's dumbest detective and dumb hero's that say random doumb things like "save some random girl Batman doesn't know." Then your favorite kiddie hero goes on a rampage for fn Martha LOL. Hence, you like BvS.
Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'
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mh-newressistance — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 03:39 PM)
Marvel made 10 billion that includes obscure Marvel properties that didnt feature RDJ..
It doesn't really matter, since those properties belong to a worldwide brand that is beloved and recognized by millions. Nowadays brands are more substantial than the characters which those brands have. It's the brand that makes those movies as successful as they are, not the movies themselves. You can't say that Rogue One managed to be such a success because people liked the movie. If it wasn't for the brand, people wouldn't care. -
Verdugo85 — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 01:36 PM)
Aquaman, The Flash and Cyborg solos wouldnt had made those "2 billions" if they had started the DCEU but WB knew that, thats why they started with their big guns but then those big guns got destroyed in a Civil War
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 03:18 PM)
Don't even bother with Verdugo. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
He still doesn't understand that Marvel pays RDJ the big bucks because he's a huge draw for whatever movie he's in. A very simple concept from a business point of view
Make up your OWN mind. Don't be a follower.
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brickfire — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 05:21 PM)
I mean come on guys, smoking was banned from the MCU because Disney said so. They also removed Tony Stark's alcohol problem in IM3 to make it more kid-friendly. They also gave him a kid side kick for the same reason.
Look at the dance-off, look at the talking raccoon, look at the new Spider-Kid movie, look at Hulk smashing Loki. That stuff is for children. Sure DC has silly moments too, but their films aren't entirely designed to make kids laugh.
Of course there are a few exceptions like DD, but most of the MCU is kiddie. I know jimmies will be rustled but it's just the truth.
I disagree with that view as well.
Mcu MARVEL formula
The mcu movies and shows-
by MamaLukuBuku
The formula works, and I will tell you why they shouldn't apply it to
future films: Tiers that offer something a little different for all
kinds of fans.
Tier 1: Films- Big budget, over the top, with a target audience of
kids. This is where the money comes from that makes the other 2 tiers
possible. They can juggle lighthearted and semi-serious here without
ruining their target audience.
Tier 2: TV- Agents of Shield and Agent Carter. Dramas that cater to an
older crowd, not necessarily meant for a younger audience. Fills in
gaps here and there for the movies. Shows a much bigger world of the
MCU.
Tier 3: Netflix- This is where Marvel can let loose in a no holds
barred grimy bloodbath for the adults. This is the "graphic novel"
section of the MCU. Super focused, and as real as it gets with street
level heroes.
3 different levels of the MCU for different kinds of fans. Of course
some fans will enjoy all 3 so they have the full MCU experience, but
what they are doing is perfect and they shouldn't change it.
By the way i see the mcu movies targeted for kids and adults
and they are more serious then some
folks think,more so the captain
america movies and hulk movie.
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brickfire — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 05:23 PM)
Here is some talk about mcu films and dceu films by the way.
The difference is that Marvel took its time with its cinematic universe and built a world, while Dawn of Justice tries to do too much in the span of one film.
Not to mention that the MCU does do dark films. The likes of The Incredible Hulk, and even later films like Winter Soldier and Iron Man 3 deal with some pretty serious themes. Cinematography-wise, sure, it's not like someone turned out the lights, but those films are examples of doing a dark, serious superhero film and still being able to inject humor in situations when necessary.
Are people being preemptively harder on DC? Possibly, but not like DC hasn't somewhat brought it on themselves with this haphazard approach, lack of a real critical hit, and rushing to play catch-up instead of taking its time. I doubt anyone would have an issue with DC taking a slower approach if the films as a whole were well-received, which is why there's now so much pressure on Wonder Woman.
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