Martha!
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 05:22 AM)
"Killing people" - bad guys
When you grow up you might realise things are not quite so black and white Rambo. How does Superman know they were "Bad Guys" all he knew was Batman was driving through the streets killing people that makes him a bad guy as he has no authority to pass judgment on people this is Batman not Judge Dredd. For Superman to believe that Batman is killing "Bad Guys" it would also mean that he would have to believe that all Lex employees or security are "bad guys" which would be a bit of a stretch wouldn't you think for a multi billion dollar company? What do you think they do at Lex cord have on the application form are you "Evil/Bad Guy/Evil or Good?" (and they say this is a mature movie lol).
"Trying to kill Superman" - Superman is aware Lex was also pulling both his AND Batman's strings. Batman perceived Superman to be a potential threat. There's an underlying theme of Batman trying to protect innocent people from danger.
So you would be ok and best friends with someone if they beat you up and nearly killed you with the only thing that stopped you was the coincidence that your mothers name happened to be the same as yours, if you knew they perceived you as a threat and someone else told them to do it? Not bloody likely I would say.
"Maiming people" - Again he maimed a slave trafficker and other bad guys
LMFAO Bad Guys again, its a wonder they did not have them dress up in a black and white striped top and wear face masks. As bad as these criminals (this is an adult word for you Rambo) were it is not an excuse for Batman to carry out these acts of violence. Although to be honest with you I personally would not mind seeing slave traffickers getting branded in real like but that still does not make it right.
Fact is, Superman knows that Batman is a CRIMEfighter
No Superman knows that Batman is a criminal, a murderer and a torturer who does it in the name of fighting crime.
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 05:40 AM)
When you grow up you might realise things are not quite so black and white Rambo. How does Superman know they were "Bad Guys" all he knew was Batman was driving through the streets killing people that makes him a bad guy as he has no authority to pass judgment on people this is Batman not Judge Dredd. For Superman to believe that Batman is killing "Bad Guys" it would also mean that he would have to believe that all Lex employees or security are "bad guys" which would be a bit of a stretch wouldn't you think for a multi billion dollar company? What do you think they do at Lex cord have on the application form are you "Evil/Bad Guy/Evil or Good?" (and they say this is a mature movie lol).
Batman is a crimefighter lol.. Superman investigates him and realizes this. Why else would Superman tell Lois "I have to get Batman to help". He knows he's a good guy, he just disagrees with his methods.
Lex's security guards have vans with chainguns mounted in them. I don't think it's rocket science that Batman was taking out bad guys.
That's like saying Tony Stark and Cap can't be trusted by other heroes because they kill.
So you would be ok and best friends with someone if they beat you up and nearly killed you with the only thing that stopped you was the coincidence that your mothers name happened to be the same as yours, if you knew they perceived you as a threat and someone else told them to do it? Not bloody likely I would say.
Hey come on now. We've already been over this and you've already admitted you understand that the Martha scene wasn't them saying "hey cool our moms have the same name"
Superman went to fight Batman with the intention of getting him to help. Of course he's going to accept Batman's help. It was quite obvious that Batman was no longer hostile towards him. If he was, he most definitely would have delivered the killing blow when he had the chance.
LMFAO Bad Guys again, its a wonder they did not have them dress up in a black and white striped top and wear face masks. As bad as these criminals (this is an adult word for you Rambo) were it is not an excuse for Batman to carry out these acts of violence. Although to be honest with you I personally would not mind seeing slave traffickers getting branded in real like but that still does not make it right.
It's also not ok for Batman to work outside the law whether or not he kills criminals if you want to get technical.
Going by your logic it's not ok for Iron Man to fly around the world killing people either. I just looked in different thread where you were going on about how much you love the Punisher lol. Marvel zealot hypocrite is obvious.
No Superman knows that Batman is a criminal, a murderer and a torturer who does it in the name of fighting crime.
That also cares about protecting innocent lives
I certainly don't think any of this paints a target over Martha's head in Batman's crosshairs lol.
Derp.
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 06:15 AM)
Lex's security guards have vans with chainguns mounted in them. I don't think it's rocket science that Batman was taking out bad guys.
I agree having a chain gun mounted in a back of a lorry would lead me to believe they were criminals as well so then explain this bit to me what makes Batman the good guy? His Batmobile has machine guns mounted to the front of it which he uses and not only that he is dragging helpless people around behind him and kills them what part of this do you not understand is not legal and is criminal activity? Also if Superman does believe that these guys are bad guys why does he stop Batman and/or why does he not stop them himself?
That's like saying Tony Stark and Cap can't be trusted by other heroes because they kill.
Not sure which version of BvS Tony Stark turned up in but please do inform us.
Hey come on now. We've already been over this and you've already admitted you understand that the Martha scene wasn't them saying "hey cool our moms have the same name"
No you mistook me staying that I know what the scene was meant to portray with me saying it did not result in them becoming best friends because their mother had the same name. Because they do become best friends moments after they find out that they share mothers with the same name and you can not deny that or are you going to tell me that Superman did not become his friend after this and he did not trust Batman with saving his Martha and the warehouse scene was something I just dreamed up?
Going by your logic it's not ok for Iron Man to fly around the world killing people either
It really does seem we must have been watching different cuts in mine Batman and Superman became friends and he sends Batman to save Martha are you telling me in yours that they send Iron Man or something? Because you keep brining up Tony Stark and Iron Man and I am failing to see what he has to do with this movie?
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 06:33 AM)
I agree having a chain gun mounted in a back of a lorry would lead me to believe they were criminals as well so then explain this bit to me what makes Batman the good guy? His Batmobile has machine guns mounted to the front of it which he uses and not only that he is dragging helpless people around behind him and kills them what part of this do you not understand is not legal and is criminal activity? Also if Superman does believe that these guys are bad guys why does he stop Batman and/or why does he not stop them himself?
Batman is the good guy because he's working at something he believes will protect humanity. He's trying to steal the Kryptonite because he wants to prevent the chance that Superman could ever turn bad. He has what he perceives to be humanity's best interests at heart I somewhat agree with his philosophy that one man should not possess the level of power that Superman has although if I knew everything about Superman I may make the exception because he's Superman. But I'm not a character in the movie that doesn't know Superman.
Batman doesn't shoot first in that scene. Lex's security starts firing at Batman. In this film, he's more reckless but I figure if they were trying to kill him who cares if he kills back
That's pretty well how most American action heroes work
But I was never making the argument that I don't question Batman's morally grey area. As for Superman, he was transfixed on Batman at the time, had been paying lots of attention to him, and was most likely waiting for him to slip up. He obviously waited until he'd had enough to interfere with Batman and I think he made it pretty clear that it was time for Batman to shut down his operation.
Not sure which version of BvS Tony Stark turned up in but please do inform us.
I'm comparing because you're a Marvel zealot and I think it's fair game to use those characters to point out your hypocrisy. Your argument about Batman killing doesn't seem to have anything to do with how it's a departure from the comics (given that you don't read comics). It seems to be that your underlying issue is that you think Batman is some sort of sadistic murderer without any heroic qualities at all.
But I don't see you ever complaining about any of the MArvel heroes that kill
Hypocrite.
No you mistook me staying that I know what the scene was meant to portray with me saying it did not result in them becoming best friends because their mother had the same name. Because they do become best friends moments after they find out that they share mothers with the same name and you can not deny that or are you going to tell me that Superman did not become his friend after this and he did not trust Batman with saving his Martha and the warehouse scene was something I just dreamed up?
Oh, sure that happens but it's not as cut and dry as you're making it out to be. And I don't believe that they became best friends simply because their mom's have the same names just for similarities sake.
There's more to that meaning behind it all as I've explained countless times.
It really does seem we must have been watching different cuts in mine Batman and Superman became friends and he sends Batman to save Martha are you telling me in yours that they send Iron Man or something? Because you keep brining up Tony Stark and Iron Man and I am failing to see what he has to do with this movie?
Again just pointing out the hypocrisy. It's like the whole Punisher thing. I saw you say he's your favorite Marvel character and then I see you bashing Batman trying to make him out to be some sort of sadistic serial killer with that has no heroic qualities.
Just more proof that you're a Marvel zealot. It's not hard to spot the hypocrisy of a Marvelturd. I'll leave out the tard since you can actually try to defend yourself unlike Ogump and some of the more severe Marveltarded characters on this board.
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Kyos — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 09:10 AM)
Batman doesn't shoot first in that scene. Lex's security starts firing at Batman.
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 06:56 AM)
Batman is the good guy because he's working at something he believes will protect humanity. He's trying to steal the Kryptonite because he wants to prevent the chance that Superman could ever turn bad.
How does Superman know this? He doesn't all he knows is that two groups of people are having a shoot out using heavy weaponry, one of which is Batman someone who is known to be causing the death of people, torturing and maiming them.
Superman has although if I knew everything about Superman I may make the exception because he's Superman
Again great if as we as a viewer/reader of all his comics and films know that Superman is a good guy but again this is using our knowledge of the character something that Batman is not privy too.
Batman is some sort of sadistic murderer without any heroic qualities at all.
I am judging Batman in the DCEU here and from what he have seen of him in this material alone. Ok I have witnessed the following.- Data theft from someone he does not know at this point is a bad guy as you like to call them
- Brand and torture people and no it does not give you permission to do such thing because your rich and have a rubber bat fetish no matter how dad these people might be.
- Try and kill Superman
- Work for Amanda Waller
- Do the bidding of Lex
- Punch a girl in the face
- Use a child as a human shield
- Drag helpless (bad guys) people in a car and murder them
- Have employees so scared of him that they dare not leave a building when a city is under attack without his permission.
oh the so called heroic side we have seen so far: - Him save a little girl in metropolis
- Save
Martha!
Nothing else springs to mind and how it managed to save Martha I will never know those Mercenaries should have killed her the second they saw the Batwing start shooting up the place and just scattered but they did not for I guess .reasons?
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 07:12 AM)
How does Superman know this? He doesn't all he knows is that two groups of people are having a shoot out using heavy weaponry, one of which is Batman someone who is known to be causing the death of people, torturing and maiming them.
I think most people know that Batman is a vigilante at that point. Superman tells him to stop so I'm not sure what you're so worried about.- Data theft from someone he does not know at this point is a bad guy as you like to call them
- Brand and torture people and no it does not give you permission to do such thing because your rich and have a rubber bat fetish no matter how dad these people might be.
- Try and kill Superman
- Work for Amanda Waller
- Do the bidding of Lex
- Punch a girl in the face
- Use a child as a human shield
- Drag helpless (bad guys) people in a car and murder them
- Have employees so scared of him that they dare not leave a building when a city is under attack without his permission.
Complete desperation and grasping at straws. Trying to kill Superman (because of his philosophy that no one man should have that much power and because he believes power corrupts)
Branding and torturing. I never said it was right, but he's not running around at night doing this to innocent people. He's doing this to criminals which I personally have no problem with Batman doing.
In my eyes, I think it's justified when you consider who he's doing it to. Yes, I realize it's against the law but everything Batman does is against the law.
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 09:38 PM)
Complete desperation and grasping at straws. Trying to kill Superman (because of his philosophy that no one man should have that much power and because he believes power corrupts)
You can not justify Batman trying to kill someone because it is his philosophy is no excuse. Next you will be siding with terrorists well that would be if you were not so deluded already that you believe that your own government wasn't carrying out the attacks.
Complete desperation and grasping at straws
Nope all valid points and you know it else you would have made an attempt to counter them.
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 01:38 AM)
I only bothered addressing the ones that weren't complete straw man arguments but I'll do the rest now.
- Data theft from someone he does not know at this point is a bad guy as you like to call them.
Seriously? Big deal. Batman obtains information illegally in his sleuthing all the time. - Brand and torture people and no it does not give you permission to do such thing because your rich and have a rubber bat fetish no matter how dad these people might be.
When did I ever say Batman had permission to brand and torture criminals? Technically Batman doesn't have proper permission to work outside the law at all lol dumbass. Batman working outside the law is something Batman fans are used to - Try and kill Superman
Again, because of his philosophy and worry for the well being of humanity - Work for Amanda Waller
He's building up the JL - Do the bidding of Lex
He had been manipulated - Punch a girl in the face
I've seen countless male action heroes punch women - Use a child as a human shield
That was a poorly shot scene from a bad movie. Regardless, he didn't grab her and use her as a human shield she ran up in front of Deadshot and acted as a human shield herself
. - Drag helpless (bad guys) people in a car and murder them
Exactly, bad guys
No I'm not saying it's "legal" I'm just saying I don't care doesn't mean he isn't a hero that cares about protecting innocents - Have employees so scared of him that they dare not leave a building when a city is under attack without his permission.
The last one is just retarded
I don't see how any of those straw man arguments prove Batman isn't a hero that fights crime
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- Data theft from someone he does not know at this point is a bad guy as you like to call them.
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 04:16 AM)
Again just pointing out the hypocrisy. It's like the whole Punisher thing. I saw you say he's your favorite Marvel character and then I see you bashing Batman trying to make him out to be some sort of sadistic serial killer with that has no heroic qualities.- by Ramboman24
Jan 6 2017
Re: Curious to see you're top five all time superheroes
Batman (prior DCEU version)
2. Bucky (never read anything about him in comics)
3. Hulk (A hero I grew up watching on TV and I have always loved the inner conflict)
4. Crow (I just love that movie)
5. Rorschach (This one is actually from the only comic I have ever rated, great character)
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CichlidAsh
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Yes as you can see me going on listing my favourite character Punisher.
I am not going to deny liking Punisher though so if you want to try and make something out of that please try too.
Now these:- Data theft from someone he does not know at this point is a bad guy as you like to call them
- Brand and torture people and no it does not give you permission to do such thing because your rich and have a rubber bat fetish no matter how dad these people might be.
- Try and kill Superman
- Work for Amanda Waller
- Do the bidding of Lex
- Punch a girl in the face
- Use a child as a human shield
- Drag helpless (bad guys) people in a car and murder them
- Have employees so scared of him that they dare not leave a building when a city is under attack without his permission.
oh the so called heroic side we have seen so far: - Him save a little girl in metropolis
- Save Martha!
Are in response to this statement that you said
I see you bashing Batman trying to make him out to be some sort of sadistic serial killer with that has no heroic qualities
So your counter as to why I should find him not to be a sadistic killer is
Seriously? Big deal. Batman obtains information illegally in his sleuthing all the time.
So that means its heroic because he steals all information all the time?
2.
When did I ever say Batman had permission to brand and torture criminals? Technically Batman doesn't have proper permission to work outside the law at all lol dumbass. Batman working outside the law is something Batman fans are used to
This is your defence of why he is not a sadist because the fans are used to it and he is working outside the law? How does that change him from being a fVVking sadist?
3.
Again, because of his philosophy and worry for the well being of humanity
How does brutally attacking someone with the intention of murdering them somehow make you heroic especially when that person is actually a good person who is seen throughout the movie saving people?
5.
He had been manipulated
Lex Manipulating him somehow means he is either heroic or not a murderer or sadist? Please explain how Lex made Batman brand people?
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Punch a girl in the face I've seen countless male action heroes punch women
I guess what your saying then is that means that it is not an example of brutality and is perfectly expectable because you can use the favoured DC Zealot excuse of it's happened in other films instead of trying to actually present a defence of it in its own right? Still even if it has happened in other films it does not mean that it is not a legitimate example of Batman brutality. At least we can say he is not sexist though right?
7.
Use a child as a human shield That was a poorly shot scene from a bad movie. Regardless, he didn't grab her and use her as a human shield she ran up in front of Deadshot and acted as a human shield herself
I am not excepting a poorly shot scene as an excuse Rambo it is what it is the DCEU decided to include it in the film so it is cannon as is seen. So explain to me how it is heroic to even approach a known killer when he is with a child endangering her in the first place and it don't matter if it was his own child so don't try and pull that one. When the child stepped in the way causing herself to become a human shield what did Batman do to prevent her from continuing to be so? Nothing so while he might not have originally placed her there as a human shield he did use her as one. That is not heroic in my book but please explain to me why you find it is.
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Drag helpless (bad guys) people in a car and murder them Exactly, bad guys No I'm not saying it's "legal" I'm just saying I don't care doesn't mean he isn't a hero that cares about protecting innocents
Again please explain this inline with your original comment. How is this not murder? Legal has nothing to do with you wanted me to answer why I was
bashing Batman trying to make him out to be some sort of sadistic serial killer
. This is because this is murder like it or not be it bad guys or not its still murder.
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 09:51 AM)
So that means its heroic because he steals all information all the time?
It's well known that Batman breaks into homes, steals information and does all of his detective work outside of the law. If you want to make the argument that Batman isn't a hero because he breaks the law, then start with ALL the laws he breaks. You're going up against 70 some odd years of history of people knowing him as the hero. In no way am I saying that him working outside of the law is what specifically makes him a hero. He's a hero that works outside of the law, where you stand on how you feel about that affecting how heroic he is.. is your choice.
This is your defence of why he is not a sadist because the fans are used to it and he is working outside the law? How does that change him from being a fVVking sadist?
I look at it as a tough on crime approach. He's always been violent towards criminals. Batman has never worked within the confines of the law so I don't care about how he gets the job done I just care that he does. He attacks bad people not good people. So he's a hero.
How does brutally attacking someone with the intention of murdering them somehow make you heroic especially when that person is actually a good person who is seen throughout the movie saving people?
It's arguable that it's not heroic but when you see what Batman's reasoning for the whole thing is it makes more sense. He's viewing Superman as a dangerous alien not as a human and he's worried that if he ever turned bad he could enslave humanity in minutes.
The level of power that Superman has worries him. His reasoning for wanting to kill Superman is related to his concerns for protecting humanity. It's not black and white. It's a situation where sometimes a hero is put ina situation where they have to do something questionable in order to do what they feel will protect humanity in the long run.
Ie when TOny Stark creates Ultron.
I am not excepting a poorly shot scene as an excuse Rambo it is what it is the DCEU decided to include it in the film so it is cannon as is seen. So explain to me how it is heroic to even approach a known killer when he is with a child endangering her in the first place and it don't matter if it was his own child so don't try and pull that one. When the child stepped in the way causing herself to become a human shield what did Batman do to prevent her from continuing to be so? Nothing so while he might not have originally placed her there as a human shield he did use her as one. That is not heroic in my book but please explain to me why you find it is.
As I said, it's a poorly shot scene from a movie I hate. So you can have that one. I look at it as something the director didn't even think a bout when shooting the scene. He was so hell bent on playing up the importance of Deadshot's daughter the the power she had to subdue his inner criminal that they didn't even realize they were making Batman look like an idiot.
Sure, it's cannon, doesn't mean I can't ignore it which is what I do to horrible movies. And regardless, you can tell that it wasn't their intention to shoot a scene to show that Batman likes to put little girls lives in danger.
It's just something the director didn't think of because he's a moron. A sloppy, half assed, cameo that looks like it was shot in one take. You can tell they thought it would be a clever way to make Deadshot more relatable by having him unable to kill in front of his daughter. Super cheesy.
Again please explain this inline with your original comment. How is this not murder? Legal has nothing to do with you wanted me to answer why I was
The original arugment was that batman wasn't a hero. I don't see Batman punishing criminals or bad guys as something that undoes all of his heroic qualities and the good things he does.
He protects the right people, he's an as-hole to the right people. He's a hero.
This is because this is murder like it or not be it bad guys or not its still murder.
I don't consider the Punisher or Batman to be sadistic serial killers. I view them as vigilantes. There's always an underlying theme that they're taking out bad people which you can choose to agree or disagree with.
Sure, they're breaking the law. Whether or not that bothers you is up to you as an individual and how much you respect the law. I follow most laws, but that doesn't mean that my philosophy towards law means that I disagree with every single individual that has ever broken the law.
As far as Vigilantes are concerned, I view them as heroes. Not as serial killers despite what the law would technically label them as.
And no I don't view ISIS as heroic. They kill for religion which I don't believe in.
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 03:48 PM)
He protects the right people, he's an as-hole to the right people. He's a hero.
As I said Rambo if we use only what we know about Batman from the DCEU and had no prior knowledge of him then he does not appear to really be a hero in the DCEU but of course we all use what we know about him from past films/comic and the likes to know he is a hero, despite using extreme methods kind of like a billionaire version of the Punisher. However if you do try and list what heroic things he has done in the DCEU films it does not really amount to that much, his main thing of course is try and kill another hero and using this philosophy as an excuse for making it right is very dangerous waters as I said terrorist believe in what they are doing but that does not make them right or good. I am sure that by the same measure Lex motivations you should also believe made for him actually being a good guy because he believed in what he was doing is also for the greater good.
It you do scroll up though you can see that the list was made in direct response of why do I see him as a violent murder with no heroic qualities. So I gave my answers perhaps you can give the reasons why you think Batman is not a violent murder and is so heroic (using only what is shown in the DCEU films).
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 03:54 PM)
Oh sure, because saving Superman's mother and helping to destroy Doomsday isn't heroic. Neither is creating a JL tard.
I said terrorist believe in what they are doing but that does not make them right or good. I am sure that by the same measure Lex motivations you should also believe made for him actually being a good guy because he believed in what he was doing is also for the greater good.
Terrorists kill for religion which is stupid because it's a radicalized version of their religion anyways. It's an even bigger pile of BS than the original religion it derives from.
Batman's philosophy about one man having too much power makes sense. And Batman doesn't know Superman the way we do. It's like if an alien came to our earth with incredible powers, even if he said he was good, I'd be skeptical of trusting someone more powerful than myself and would probably fear that alien.
Never said it's 100% right what Batman is doing, it's definitely a morally grey area but it makes sense.
And that sir, Is why I like DC movies. They make you think
And btw in the end, Batman doesn't even kill Superman.
Dumbass.
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 04:29 PM)
Oh sure, because saving Superman's mother and helping to destroy Doomsday isn't heroic. Neither is creating a JL tard.
Of course if Batman was not so compliant in the first place with Lex plans or was not trying to kill Superman because reasons Lex would not have kidnapped Martha in the first place so I don't see that as being so heroic as you do because its largely Batman fault that Martha was kidnapped in the first place.
Batman just $hat his pants when Doomsday turned up his contribution to the fight was minimal out of the three heroes. Again Doomsday creation is partly Batmans fault anyway but not as much as Superman really given that instead of stopping Doomsday creation he decides to strike up a conversation with Lex instead.
Batman's philosophy about one man having too much power makes sense
Yes it does, what does not make sense if having the same mother name changing that philosophy.
. Neither is creating a JL
Oh do tell me when did he create the Justice League? You seem to have watched a very different film to us all again.
tard.
You triggered again Rambo?
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 04:50 PM)
Of course if Batman was not so compliant in the first place with Lex plans or was not trying to kill Superman because reasons Lex would not have kidnapped Martha in the first place so I don't see that as being so heroic as you do because its largely Batman fault that Martha was kidnapped in the first place.
omg more straw man. That's an indirect consequence of Batman's actions but it was never his intention so that doesn't make him evil. In the comics, Robin gets killed because Batman takes a young kid under his wing as a crime fighter.
God damn you're whiney.
Batman just $hat his pants when Doomsday turned up his contribution to the fight was minimal out of the three heroes. Again Doomsday creation is partly Batmans fault anyway but not as much as Superman really given that instead of stopping Doomsday creation he decides to strike up a conversation with Lex instead.
Everything is the heroes fault. Didn't see you complaining about Tony Stark ACTUALLY creating Ultron himself lol. Marveltard.
Batman doesn't confront Doomsday face to face because he isn't retarded. He still stuck around within a close enough radius that he "Could've" been killed but it was far less likely. It's called being brave without being retarded..
You triggered again Rambo?
Nope that's just what I call moron's that never give up on continuous straw man arguments.
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 05:02 PM)
Everything is the heroes fault.Everything is the heroes fault. Didn't see you complaining about Tony Stark ACTUALLY creating Ultron himself lol. Marveltard.
While not blaming the heroes themselves you can not deny that they were a contributing factor to all this situations Superman could have prevented Doomsday birth cycle from completing but instead chose to strike up a conversation with Lex or are you going to deny this?
Everything is the heroes fault. Didn't see you complaining about Tony Stark ACTUALLY creating Ultron himself lol. Marveltard.
Are you really this stupid well we all know the answer to this question. However please explain to everyone why I would be complaining about Tony Stark creating Ultron on the BvS board I am really interested in your logic behind that thinking. Also again please show me one time I have ever defended a bad Marvel movie just once, you can not because I am not a huge Marvel fan you daft twat the clue to what franchise I would align myself to is in my bio.
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 05:07 PM)
While not blaming the heroes themselves you can not deny that they were a contributing factor to all this situations Superman could have prevented Doomsday birth cycle from completing but instead chose to strike up a conversation with Lex or are you going to deny this?
Yes, yes.. Spider-man could've prevented Gwen Stacey's death I get what you're saying but that's just superhero comics for you.
Are you really this stupid well we all know the answer to this question. However please explain to everyone why I would be complaining about Tony Stark creating Ultron on the BvS board I am really interested in your logic behind that thinking. Also again please show me one time I have ever defended a bad Marvel movie just once, you can not because I am not a huge Marvel fan you daft twat the clue to what franchise I would align myself to is in my bio.
Well all you ever do is rag on DC movies and then sing nothing but praise when you talk about MArvel and I have seen you talk about Marvel multiple times on this board so don't pretend it's not something you do.
As I said before, you can deny being a Marveltard all you want. I know what you are and that's all that matters
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