Why this movie is getting hate.
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ratliffdonnie — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 02:50 PM)
A lot of it is coming from the ending and because of the lack of gore. I haven't seen the movie yet myself but I spoiled it for myself and tbh, I didn't expect anyone to die in the film, which I know they did and come back, but I figured there would just be a lot of jump scares and no one would die, but I'm surprised at how it happens in the movie even with the lack of gore
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iainhammer — 10 years ago(December 16, 2015 08:56 PM)
@ ratliffdonnie:
" haven't seen the movie yet myself"
SO why do you then proceed to post spoilers without understanding the narrative context or the reason for the plot twist you describe, and if you "haven't seen the movie yet myself" why would you be "surprised at how it happens in the movie" ??
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Ina_no_name — 9 years ago(July 28, 2016 02:06 PM)
I like horror best without all the gore. I rather want a horror with full of atmosphere, and a good creepy story that goes under the skin rather than all the gore. Seems like people just care about special effects these days, which is kind of sad
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cgrill8 — 9 years ago(August 04, 2016 09:07 AM)
YES! Like older Hitchcock shorts and movies. And The Changeling (1980) atmosphere.. it's all about atmosphere. They could be running around wearing parkas running from screaming flying pandas and as long as the atmosphere is right, I'd love it. I understand not everyone 'likes' Krampus, but I 'get it'. Being ALONE in the theater when I saw REALLY helped too
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fleshrequiem — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 06:07 PM)
Oh sure, you get a few people who don't get it, but on the whole? A lot of positive reviews online and feedback from people, and I certainly see this joining Trick R Treat as the holiday alternative cult classic. I certainly fell in love with it and haven't seen a movie with such a Gremlins/Demonic Toys/Army of Darkness vibe to it sincewell.the 80's!
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DeusExKatrina — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 06:42 PM)
I don't understand why people don't like it. But it'd be far too easy just to blame it on modern tastes. Some reviewers I trust, who definitely know their way around classic horror, have also expressed their distaste for the film. Jon Schnepp even said they should have rereleased Rare Exports instead which is utterly absurd, Rare Exports doesn't even come close to Krampus in quality.
Suffice to say, different people have different taste. Some people didn't like the film, that's fine. Many did like it, and it's made far more money than expected, so that's great.
Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame. -
fleshrequiem — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 08:02 PM)
Well, my respect for Jon Schnepp utterly withered. And what is with all the praise for Rare Exports? I didn't think it was that good to be honest.
These types of films usually take a while to get established in cult status. Once time passes I think we'll see more and more catch on to the joy of this film. I've seen mainly positive reviews (Empire, Red Letter Media, IGN) and a majority of people really liked it.
I read a review from a so called horror expert. This was a person who trashed Krampus yet praised Victor Frankenstein. That alone should say something I think. -
DeusExKatrina — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 09:04 PM)
I agree 100% with your opinion on Krampus and Rare Exports but I don't think you should lose respect for a critic just based on what they do or don't like. I think why they like or don't like something is more important, and Schnepp would have to write an actual review for us to learn that. Plus, Schnepp was in a bad mood and he was crapping on everything today so he'd probably be more level headed about Krampus on a later date.
I definitely think the "hate" for Krampus is overrated. Everything gets hate on the internet, we can't interpret that as the general consensus because that's not reality, that's the vocal minority. Most people seem to be loving Krampus so I don't even think we'll have to wait for it to become a cult classic, I think it'll already be a classic.
I mean, do I think Krampus is the #1 best movie of all-time? No, of course not. But how many good Christmas horror films are there out there? Not many. Most of the "good" ones are barely decent, the only real classics are Black Christmas and Gremlins. Will Krampus stand proud in that crowd? Definitely, it easily earns a spot above all the second and third tier Christmas horror movies.
As for Rare Exports very, very, very cool concept. Awesome atmosphere. And then it kind of beep the bed at the end. Becomes totally goofy and
the monster never even gets out of the ice. What a weak ending!
I love Rare Exports and it's a yearly watch for me around Christmas time but that just goes to show you how few good Christmas horror films there are. Krampus is much, much better written in terms of follow through, so I think we'll definitely see it become a classic at least on the level of Rare Exports.
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fleshrequiem — 10 years ago(December 15, 2015 09:32 AM)
Oh it's more of a case of me questioning a critic and his taste in film, especially is he professes to be a horror fan. Maybe I'm getting old and cranky (sad reality) but one someone calls Boris Karloff a "bore and a snooze" and Vincent Price an "overcooked ham" in his reviews, I know that the person and I have nothing to talk about. As for Schnepp, I love the guy but man does he seem more and more irritated about everything as of late. Not that I blame him.
Put it this way, there was a father and son who walked out of Krampus (I work in a movie theater) with huge grins on their faces. When I asked them did they like it, I think the father gave a more enthusiastic response than his kid! I popped my head in earlier in the day for the theater. Krampus was the only movie selling well, and the auditorium was reasonably packed. I heard laughs at the jokes, screams at a few parts and more grinning faces than irritated ones. I think it just seems like a lot of people "hate" the film because they all might swarm in one place (ie imdb, facebook)
Black Christmas, Gremlins, Puppet Master vs Demonic Toys (okay, that last one is bad, but still
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I guess I loved Krampus so much because it was a nice throwback without getting caught up in it's own nostalgia. As a youngster I always loved practical effects, stopmotion, puppets. Ray Harryhausen, David Allen, Tsubaraya were all heroes of mine. Be it old Godzilla films, the PuppetMaster series or Joe Dante's romps, I've always held such films close to my heart. Krampus reminded me of such films, and managed to still carve out its own niche and identity. -
ButcherOfLuverne — 10 years ago(December 15, 2015 04:43 AM)
Thanks for the feedback - and I agree 100%. People have different tastes; I just find it amazing that people wanted more gore from this movie. Krampus was never a gore-based legend, and It's odd that some people expected A Jigsaw Christmas.
Also, Rare Exports was like a 6. Krampus' cast and moral outdo it in sheer quality; though Rare Exports had the best Santa ever.
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JudgeNotLestYeBeJudgeReinhold — 10 years ago(February 25, 2016 02:23 PM)
I didn't really care for the ending. Other than that, I thought it was pretty awesome. And even though I didn't like the end, it didn't ruin the movie for me. It'll definitely be on around the holidays in my house
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DeusExKatrina — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 09:07 PM)
Nightmare Before Christmas is more than generally well-liked, it's a downright classic! This guy just has a grudge against christmas & halloween for some reason.
But you're perfectly right, Krampus has absolutely nothing to do with Halloween, other than a couple of mild visual allusions to Trick 'r Treat. Not sure why the poster considers Krampus to be Halloween-related unless they consider ALL horror movies to be inherently related to Halloween.
Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame. -
AntoNEO — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 09:25 PM)
Nightmare Before Christmas is more than generally well-liked, it's a downright classic!
You're right, and I completely agree. I was just using understatement for the sake of argument.
Definitely a holiday favorite of mine!