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      mpatt670214 — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 07:09 AM)

      In India,gun license is needed to carry a gun.But situations like that shown in the movie are real,and happening to almost every one driving cars on highways.So travel with a gun, and shoot if needed.In US,where gun ownership is more free,you need to have a gun.

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        and_hundred — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 05:11 PM)

        DISCLAIMER: The following is just like my opinion, man. (which might be wrong) So don't use these instruction and then blame me if it doesn't work. That would annoy me.
        I think the rules should be: avoiding conflict, then deescalation, then attack.

        1. Don't stop the car! Try to speed up. If they catch up and drive right next to you, brake hard, make a U-Turn and speed up in the other direction, that will give you a little head start, hopefully. Maybe they will let off you.
        2. If they actually manage to stop you (because you have a broken tire like in the movie) and you have to talk to them, try to deescalate as good as possible. Be as polite as possible but also as direct as possible. Don't get out of the car. Don't follow them. Don't get split up with your family. They want to fix your tire? No thanks, you can do that yourself, after they left. There is one exception: If they want your money and they are directly threatening you, give it to them. Maybe that is all they wanted and they will just take off. But don't do anything that puts you into a weaker position.
        3. If they are still harassing you or get violent and you are sure that all the deescalation doesn't help and you are really in trouble, then hit first and hit hard. Here you probably have to be a bit creative since there are three of them but the key is to surprise them. For example: Let the engine running. If one of them steps in front of the car, run him over. Now you can try to get out of the car quickly and use this element of surprise to attack another one or you can try to escape on the broken tire. The second option will most probably end in another confrontation since they will probably follow you again and since you have a broken tire, they will stop you again and this time they will be more prepared to directly attack you so you have to be prepared too. Using the first option and trying to put up a fight directly might make more sense. But who knows, in both ways it can turn out really bad and if you are not experienced in fighting, you anyway have to rely on your luck a lot. That's why again: try to hit first and as hard as you can, maybe you'll have a lucky shot. Try to remember the time you were lying on your sofa, eating chips and watching some self-defense video on YouTube out of boredom. Now is the time to activate that knowledge. So try to grab anything that you can use as a weapon and just put up the best fight you can. It is your only chance.
          That being said, I think the biggest problem is to realize, when you actually have to fight. The character in the movie had the same problem. He probably was hoping till the end that somehow it will just work out. Maybe they will really just fix his tire and then leave. Maybe if I just do this and that for them, they will leave me alone. That is why it is important to follow the second step and not getting talked into their beep So again: don't try to antagonize them on purpose but also don't do any of the stuff they ask you to do, if that would put you into a weaker position. If you just do anything they tell you to do, you essentially give them the opportunity to fool you longer, to let them play their "friendly" characters longer. If you stand your ground, you will notice more clearly if they become angry and aggressive or not and you will know, when to strike. So just be very observing, try to take in every detain in their behavior and then hopefully make the right move.
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          tigerfish50 — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 10:26 AM)

          None of these strategies are foolproof. The best option is to marry a Liam Neeson-type ex-Navy SEAL who is witty, cultured, popular, rich, charming, kind, and inventive in both bedroom and kitchen.
          Or else find yourself a screenwriter who writes happy endings.

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            andibeheldapalehorse — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 02:17 PM)

            Best answer yet!
            I'm the product of a fuc7ed up generation.I can't even seem to find a sunset to walk off into

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              vprice94 — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 02:59 AM)

              Try to remember the time you were lying on your sofa, eating chips and watching some self-defense video on YouTube out of boredom. Now is the time to activate that knowledge.
              Really tickled me that did. "Cobra la-la-la-la-la-la-la-lah!"

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                TheBukkakeNinja — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 06:25 AM)

                Accelerate to 125 miles per hour and lose them.
                8==D~~~
                TIME FOR AN ORGY!!!

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                  Nakedjaxx — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 09:31 PM)

                  shoulda U-turn and drive the other way. lol

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                    earthmanny — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 05:30 AM)

                    It's interesting how most of the answers aren't really answers. "carry a gun." um, in this situation he didn't have a gun. "speed up, run away." even if that worked, then he's not in the situation that the question is asking about.
                    I was thinking about it during the film and i think the best/only thing might have been to pull a rick grimes (the walking dead) and chomped down on ray's carotid artery. seeing someone do that and all the blood might have been enough to make lou and turk think twice and take off. and there was the opportunity when ray was all up in tony's face.

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                      PopperTheKungFuDragn — 9 years ago(February 10, 2017 01:56 AM)

                      I was in the carry a gun camp, but now I agree with you.
                      Poorly Lived and Poorly Died, Poorly Buried and No One Cried

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                        chungmusic — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 10:51 AM)

                        The whole highway scene was frigging stupid. There were so many things that could've been averted. The daughter needed to get slapped for taunting the 3 guys in the first place by showing them the finger (albeit I admit she was just the catalyst). Jake's character could've also not been a frigging oaf. They were clearly ahead of the other guys when he was driving (before they were thrown off the road), he should've sped up and tried to get away. He could've tried to wrestle off the lug wrench from one of the guys and hit the guy hard enough to knock him out and try to do the same with the other two. The two women could've acted faster when they saw the cop car by running to the middle of the road (chances of getting hit was there but could've taken the risk considering they had nothing to lose right then). Then there was that scene when two of the guys were trying to carry the mother and the daughter the remaining guy was trying to stop Jake's character from reaching them, the wrench was lying there right on the floor. He could've just picked it him and hit the guy who was stopping him and went after the other two but no he just stayed there standing saying "Laura Laura". His character was just slow and stupid, he acted like someone who was high on drugs. I facepalmed through the entire scene because it was full of stupid.
                        I understand his character was supposed to symbolises weakness but it was a painful scene (actually the whole novel portion was a pain to watch due to Tony).
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                          andrewmichaelbrookes — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 11:45 AM)

                          He could have driven on his flat tire. He could have told his family to take off running down the road the other direction. There's not much he could have done. But it's an extremely implausible situation that was constructed to be emotionally manipulative. Why would the predators do this when anyone could drive by, including police? Are they gonna kidnap women like that and assault the guy and just hope that no one is gonna drive by? I know, it's the desert in West Texas where there are not a lot of cars. But it's not Mad Max.

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                            cajunbluesbaby — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 03:23 AM)

                            Unfortunately people do this all the time. They actually found, in a nearby town, a woman alive in a metal shipping crate who had been there for 3 months. The man who kidnapped her shot her fiance in front of her and turned out to have killed multiple people over the course of a decade. An actual serial killer in my town. 7 bodies found so far. In my city of Charleston, a man named Dylan Roof came into a church and shot 9 people. He did it in public, leaving others alive on purpose to tell the story and even wrote a manifesto & a note in his cell after being captured about he wasn't sorry. People are sick. Happens all the time. Sociopaths don't care about consequences.

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                              andrewmichaelbrookes — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 01:39 PM)

                              Yeah but I'm just talking about the scenario of having your family abducted from the highway. It depends on no one driving by and no cell service. There's no way the abductors knew that no one was gonna be driving by for the next ten minutes.

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                                andibeheldapalehorse — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 02:20 PM)

                                You are a bit naive, I'm afraid. S**t happens all the time.
                                I'm the product of a fuc7ed up generation.I can't even seem to find a sunset to walk off into

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                                  Lao_Che — 9 years ago(January 10, 2017 09:17 AM)

                                  tony taking on those three pyschos at the roadside is a bit much to ask. however, when he was driving the car down the dirt road he could have buckled up and rammed the car into a wall at 30mph sending his abductor/passenger through the window. then go back and take the other two by surprise, obviously procuring a weapon along the way.

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                                    andrewmichaelbrookes — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 02:54 PM)

                                    I know that beep happens. I'm talking about the scenario in the film specifically. Having your family abducted from the side of the highway. Being in the middle of nowhere with a group of rapists and killers. It's unlikely because if anyone drives by, the criminals are screwed. They would pick a more strategic place to abduct from.

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                                      cajunbluesbaby — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 07:41 PM)

                                      My point is they didn't care. Just had a guy in my home town sentenced to death for a mass murder. at his sentencing trial, knowing he was facing the death sentence, he still told the jury he felt no remorse and was glad he killed 9 people. I also read about a woman kidnapped from the Target parking lot in broad daylight. Some people are sociopaths and don't care about the consequences of their actions. It's also hubris. The guys in the film have been doing this for a while, even had a trailer they'd been using for a while. Other than the fact that they knew the area and the lack of cell coverage, no they couldn't know. But my point is they didn't care. and a car did drive by, a cop actually and he didn't stop cuz he was heading to another emergency.

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                                        crissttigaldames — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 09:18 AM)

                                        It's not an implausible situation at all. Do you think things like that don't happen in real life? they do.
                                        He coulnd't have driven on a flat tire, they would have caught up in no time. They couldn't have run away, women run slower than men, again would have been useless.
                                        Chances of someone driving by (and bothering to take the risk to stop) were also very low.

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                                          Aswinning_11 — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 10:30 AM)

                                          I understand that for the purpose of the novel Tony must be weak and loses to the three dudes, which gets him to lose his family but then for the purpose of the movie why did they pick Jake Gyllenhall who is as buffed as the main leader of the three ? They should have picked a skinny scared-looking guy.

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