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chungmusic — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 10:51 AM)
The whole highway scene was frigging stupid. There were so many things that could've been averted. The daughter needed to get slapped for taunting the 3 guys in the first place by showing them the finger (albeit I admit she was just the catalyst). Jake's character could've also not been a frigging oaf. They were clearly ahead of the other guys when he was driving (before they were thrown off the road), he should've sped up and tried to get away. He could've tried to wrestle off the lug wrench from one of the guys and hit the guy hard enough to knock him out and try to do the same with the other two. The two women could've acted faster when they saw the cop car by running to the middle of the road (chances of getting hit was there but could've taken the risk considering they had nothing to lose right then). Then there was that scene when two of the guys were trying to carry the mother and the daughter the remaining guy was trying to stop Jake's character from reaching them, the wrench was lying there right on the floor. He could've just picked it him and hit the guy who was stopping him and went after the other two but no he just stayed there standing saying "Laura Laura". His character was just slow and stupid, he acted like someone who was high on drugs. I facepalmed through the entire scene because it was full of stupid.
I understand his character was supposed to symbolises weakness but it was a painful scene (actually the whole novel portion was a pain to watch due to Tony).
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andrewmichaelbrookes — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 11:45 AM)
He could have driven on his flat tire. He could have told his family to take off running down the road the other direction. There's not much he could have done. But it's an extremely implausible situation that was constructed to be emotionally manipulative. Why would the predators do this when anyone could drive by, including police? Are they gonna kidnap women like that and assault the guy and just hope that no one is gonna drive by? I know, it's the desert in West Texas where there are not a lot of cars. But it's not Mad Max.
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cajunbluesbaby — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 03:23 AM)
Unfortunately people do this all the time. They actually found, in a nearby town, a woman alive in a metal shipping crate who had been there for 3 months. The man who kidnapped her shot her fiance in front of her and turned out to have killed multiple people over the course of a decade. An actual serial killer in my town. 7 bodies found so far. In my city of Charleston, a man named Dylan Roof came into a church and shot 9 people. He did it in public, leaving others alive on purpose to tell the story and even wrote a manifesto & a note in his cell after being captured about he wasn't sorry. People are sick. Happens all the time. Sociopaths don't care about consequences.
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andrewmichaelbrookes — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 01:39 PM)
Yeah but I'm just talking about the scenario of having your family abducted from the highway. It depends on no one driving by and no cell service. There's no way the abductors knew that no one was gonna be driving by for the next ten minutes.
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Lao_Che — 9 years ago(January 10, 2017 09:17 AM)
tony taking on those three pyschos at the roadside is a bit much to ask. however, when he was driving the car down the dirt road he could have buckled up and rammed the car into a wall at 30mph sending his abductor/passenger through the window. then go back and take the other two by surprise, obviously procuring a weapon along the way.
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andrewmichaelbrookes — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 02:54 PM)
I know that beep happens. I'm talking about the scenario in the film specifically. Having your family abducted from the side of the highway. Being in the middle of nowhere with a group of rapists and killers. It's unlikely because if anyone drives by, the criminals are screwed. They would pick a more strategic place to abduct from.
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cajunbluesbaby — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 07:41 PM)
My point is they didn't care. Just had a guy in my home town sentenced to death for a mass murder. at his sentencing trial, knowing he was facing the death sentence, he still told the jury he felt no remorse and was glad he killed 9 people. I also read about a woman kidnapped from the Target parking lot in broad daylight. Some people are sociopaths and don't care about the consequences of their actions. It's also hubris. The guys in the film have been doing this for a while, even had a trailer they'd been using for a while. Other than the fact that they knew the area and the lack of cell coverage, no they couldn't know. But my point is they didn't care. and a car did drive by, a cop actually and he didn't stop cuz he was heading to another emergency.
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crissttigaldames — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 09:18 AM)
It's not an implausible situation at all. Do you think things like that don't happen in real life? they do.
He coulnd't have driven on a flat tire, they would have caught up in no time. They couldn't have run away, women run slower than men, again would have been useless.
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Aswinning_11 — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 10:30 AM)
I understand that for the purpose of the novel Tony must be weak and loses to the three dudes, which gets him to lose his family but then for the purpose of the movie why did they pick Jake Gyllenhall who is as buffed as the main leader of the three ? They should have picked a skinny scared-looking guy.
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tigerfish50 — 9 years ago(January 25, 2017 03:42 AM)
Pick up a rock, smash, pulverise, stamp, punch, bite and destroy.
Yes, absolutely. I can can only visualize positive consequences resulting from that strategy.
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mnl33 — 9 years ago(January 28, 2017 09:09 AM)
When and if you are driven off the road in the middle of the night by three or four hill billys in the middle of nowhere, then yes i believe you are fighting for your life. The problem is, the it factor. Some people will literally do whatever they can to survive, others will cry and scream why, why!!! tigerfish, which are you?
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crissttigaldames — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 09:28 AM)
And you can visualize ANY positive outcome from just doing whatever the criminals tell you to do?. Because you trust all people are deep down good and so they won't hamd you and your family? You'll just end up raped and killed. Happens all the friggin time. Fighting doesn't give you a great chance, but it gives you a chance.
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m-slovak79 — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 07:05 AM)
given the situation in the movie the only good chance is having a gun on you prior to getting into that same spot.
outside of that your in a bad spot simply because it's three adult males vs one adult male (and two females) as even if that one adult male was fairly big and in decent shape etc the odds are not good of that one person being able to take out the three criminal males especially if they all started going off at once on the one guy which could easily happen if the good guy started trying to take out one of the males etc.
but lets just say you did not have a gun (or some sorta decent knife) you might be able to surprise one of them by kicking them in the nuts and even if that worked you still got two guys left. but if that guy somehow takes it and semi-recovers he's going to be furious at that point and being they are a criminal it will be much easier for them to get violent then the common person who generally avoids conflict as much as possible.
hell, the way some people are nowadays they would probably try to defend the bad guys if the good guy shot the bad guys especially in more liberal heavy states where they probably treat gun owners like criminals damn near. it's almost like if you shoot someone defending yourself there is a decent chance someone will try to screw you over given the backwards thinking of some people out there.
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