That Was Surprisingly Good or: A Rogue One Thread of My Very Own
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shroudoftheimmortal — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 07:12 PM)
For me (tentatively regarding Rogue One):
A New Hope
Empire/Jedi
Rogue One
The Force Awakens
Revenge of the Sith
Jedi's first and third act a far superior to Empire and Empire doesn't really have an ending. Sure the second act of Jedi may be the weakest of the OT, but I still love it.
And I honestly remember enjoying Revenge of the Sith OKbut I'm sure it was based on the lowered expectations left by the previous two prequels. I still haven't bothered to rewatch it since seeing it in the theater though
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Pambo_Calrissian — 9 years ago(December 20, 2016 08:00 AM)
I like the bit where Vader first turned.
Even though it is the entire point of the prequels and Lucas had alomst entirely pointlessly used about 540 minutes of movie up to the scene, he made it all happen during a quick catch up meeting with Palpatine, during which they kill Samuel L Jackson, burn off the baddies face to make him look evil and then agree to kill some Younglings (which are called that so we don't feel sorry for them) before officially taking over the universe in a court room scene.
As a kid who loved the action, fantasy and story telling of Star Wars, that was
exactly
how I'd imagined Vader's fall from grace.
I think people crying after a well-crafted, well-paced story, where we both fear and empathise with the main character, need to turn down their expectations and start seeing the prequels for the masterpieces that they are.99% Complete: [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
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OurGloriousLeader — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 03:16 AM)
Honestly, that was the dumbest moment for me. That he would he turn to the dark side based on spurious concerns for Padme was almost workable, that he'd force choke her cos he's a bit emo and cause it all is retarded.
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!!!deleted!!! (62963595) — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 03:31 AM)
A better scenario would have been her being shot down on Mustafar and Obi-Wan helps her just long enough to save the kids but she dies from her injuries. He then tells Vader that she and the unborn child was killed in the crash, which Vader blames on Obi-Wan, solidifying the dark side's hold on him.
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OurGloriousLeader — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 05:43 AM)
Ye, pretty much any scenario would've been better I think. As with a lot of the prequels, I think Lucas just wrote a basic concept (Anakin through trying to save Padme kills her instead) that sounded cool/paid homage to classic tragedies, but failed to actually develop them in a real or compelling way. It's summed up in the hammy dialogue, "from my point of view the Jedi are evil!"
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!!!deleted!!! (62963595) — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 10:56 AM)
Lol true. The sad thing is too he had plenty of room for development in that area as well, because the Jedi are essentially shown to attempt to control the Republic from behind the scenes, making them look a bit shady and deceptive. The Emperor also obviously wanted absolute rule, but he did it in plain view with the approval of everyone. There's lots of other factors that still make them the bad guys and whatnot but there was definitely some interesting material to work with that would have made the Jedi seem not as great as they said they were.
Also, Anakin himself should have been more Vader-like imo. People argue that he was supposed to be young and immature, okay, but, he was like 10000000% a different person. They should have cast someone who could have pulled off the Shakespearean way JEJ delivered the dialogue. They wouldn't have had to do like a JEJ impression or anything, but they should have been able to maintain some consistency with his tone and vocabulary and whatnot. -
OurGloriousLeader — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 11:20 AM)
Yea I think pre-Vader Anakin needed to be strong and intimidating although 'good', like a kinda, ruthlessly lawful good paladin type, strong arm of justice. Honestly even Hayden could have pulled it off maybe but just the aesthetic (fcking braid??) and dialogue failed miserably. His 'edge' wasn't violence or being ruthless but being fcking emo, and when he did go over into the dark side it was so over the top and out of character it was comedic. He did nothing but good all 3 films then just does, what, 3 random massacres? Lmao
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