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    P.Error — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 06:05 AM)

    “Iterations” is the theme of the film. Religions are composed of iterations of other religions that preceded. Jar Jar Binks, Radiohead, Lana Del Ray, and Monopoly are relevant.
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      bigo_mega — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 06:24 AM)

      well I don't know if that's the film's theme, it is what Mr. Reed was asserting, although he made several mistakes, both about the songs AND about the religions. Sister Barnes points out a few, but not all. The creators also said that they purposefully wrote the character of Mr. Reed to not be perfect and to make mistakes. Anyway, I was asking the other poster what it was that others were saying that was so crazy.
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        P.Error — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 06:26 AM)

        What did he make mistakes about?
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          bigo_mega — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 06:34 AM)

          His claims about all the religions essentially being cognates of one another is false. The ideas that they all involve a virgin birth to a savior who is both God and man born on December 25th etc etc…This has been kind of a meme that became popular among atheists to try and disprove religion, but its not true, just somehow became a commonly believed falsehood, I'm not sure how. As for the music, well he was correct about the lawsuits/litigation around those songs…but he isn't correct that they are iterations of each other necessarily. They involve similar or identical pieces within the songs…melodies, cord progressions etc, but there are only a limited number of chord progressions that exist and you'd be surprised how many completely unrelated songs feature the same ones…this usually isn't due to plagiarism but rather a limited amount of chords/notes to pull from and string together. So, he is telling kind of half truths, which is what a skilled liar would do…I'm not sure if these half truth/half lies are due to skill or lack there of though.
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            Steve Lake — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 09:19 AM)

            Correct. Project error is sn idiot.
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              P.Error — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 06:28 AM)

              Oh, you were asking what those posters say. I thought you had asked what the film says.
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                bigo_mega — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 06:35 AM)

                I think if I did do repeat viewings of it I would end up thinking Christina and AZN and Cheeky and Monicah make sense in any of the things that they routinely say.
                Yeah, I was curious what he was referring to here.
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                  Steve Lake — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 09:37 AM)

                  I simply meant that Grant's acting job was so on the money. I, like the two young Women in the film became so weary and susceptible to his polite insanity and nefarious circumlocution. To the point where upon repeated viewing of this film I would start to unravel like the various aforementioned posters.
                  Hope this clears it up for you.
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                    bigo_mega — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 09:43 AM)

                    I felt his politeness was sinister from the onset. I mean, we already know going in that it is, but I think he intentionally starts displaying it very early…chuckling at her father dying of "blueberries disease" pretending he thought she was making a joke, subtly calling their faith into question or making them answer for holes in their doctrine. His demeanor starts rather soft before it gets harsher and harsher until he is actually cutting them with a knife. He certainly was a great performance by Grant.
                    As for the posters on here, I'm fully out of the loop. I have no idea about any of their unraveelings 😄.
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                      Dr Theodore Augustus McMeltie II — 1 year ago(March 30, 2025 12:18 PM)

                      It's a solid 6/10 movie. Interesting premise and villainous Hugh Grant is always good, but it doesn't really go anywhere - and the ending is daft as a brush.

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                        bigo_mega — 1 year ago(March 30, 2025 08:33 PM)

                        what is it you think happened in the end?
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                          P.Error — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 12:34 AM)

                          Bro, Sister Paxton early on said she always wanted to come back as a butterfly when she dies.
                          When she escaped the Pedo’s house, the scenery changes. Creepy leaking basement to the green vastness of nature. A sunlight sky. A butterfly lands on her arm.
                          Just who don’t you think that butterfly is?
                          And was the “resurrection” at just the right time a miracle or just adrenaline?
                          The film deconstructs religion, but then at the end reinforces why people have faith.
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                            magnificent butthole — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 05:59 AM)

                            Through the events in the house, both girls had a transformation of sorts.

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                              Steve Lake — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 09:30 AM)

                              You have redeemed yourself with this post. The ending makes it quite clear what is being implied. That Butterfly isn't just an " Easter Egg"
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                                preachcaleb — 1 year ago(April 01, 2025 04:48 PM)

                                I agree. I really enjoyed it. Grant's performance was captivating and chilling, and the two girls were very sympathetic. You really do feel and fear for them when things take a turn for the worse.
                                I'd heard it was going to be a kind of Escape Room vibe; I'm glad to see that was incorrect. It is much more philosophical and intellectual than that.
                                So many stories, so little time.

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                                  Gemini — 1 year ago(April 01, 2025 09:57 PM)

                                  Oh that was such a good movie! It was way better than I thought it would be. My son had to explain it to me though because I didn't catch on that Mr Reed was a Satanist.

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                                    bigo_mega — 1 year ago(April 01, 2025 10:08 PM)

                                    He wasn't a Satanist.
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                                      insurgent — 1 year ago(April 01, 2025 10:24 PM)

                                      He wasn't - they kinda make you think that at first. He has his own religion

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                                        Steve Lake — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 12:32 AM)

                                        Correct. They the producers of the film make you think the first hour that he is a Satanist. He's not.
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                                          P.Error — 1 year ago(April 02, 2025 06:05 AM)

                                          I never got that vibe at all. He seemed like an atheist professor.
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