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Forget it Fluffy, you found someone even more inflexible than you.

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    movibiju — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 05:47 AM)

    Look, I'm worried about you! I think you are disillusioned with this world. Believe that you are not the only one. I think that Humanity has some learning difficulties caused by EGO and PRIDE.
    I think that our job here is not to change the others nor the world, but ourselves. By doing this we are already contributing to a better world!
    I know it's easy to talk and hard to do. It is difficult to improve when we are lying in the mesh of the world. I conclude that the best option is to have faith and believe in ourselves and in others. When we change the way we see the world, something that seems magical happens, the world around us changes as well.

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      matt_shade — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 05:52 AM)

      I think that our job here
      We have no "job" here. We do what we and the universe doesn't
      care
      what.
      is not to change the others nor the world, but ourselves. By doing this we are already contributing to a better world!
      No, the universe would be no better or worse if organic life died out yesterday or never existed in the first place.
      When we change the way we see the world, something that seems magical happens, the world around us changes as well.
      No, it does not. We cannot avoid consequences, no matter how we change our perception.
      Also, this
      :
      http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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        movibiju — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 06:01 AM)

        So your mood is that low? I get it!
        I really hope your perspective on life changes. I have faith in you!

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          matt_shade — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 06:02 AM)

          It's not really a question of mood, I'm like this 24-7.
          Also, this
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          http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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            movibiju — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 06:14 AM)

            Maybe you are right! For I can see, it is a problem of mindset! You are not the only one.

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              Oubliette-Midas — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:38 AM)

              Id consider myself a realist, alright? But in philosophical terms Im whats called a pessimist. I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware. Nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, that accretion of sensory experience and feelings, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everbodys nobody. I think the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming. Stop reproducing. Walk hand in hand into extinction. One last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.
              "You are salvage, the flotsam of the void, the property of the Midas Foundation. My property."

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                matt_shade — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 08:31 AM)

                We are creatures that should not exist by natural law.
                "Should" and "law" are both myths. What exists exists. If something has a problem with it that's
                their
                problem.
                I think the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming.
                I would like to ask who said that what honor has to do with it.
                Also, this
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                http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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                  Oubliette-Midas — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 09:11 AM)

                  We are creatures that should not exist by natural law.
                  Putting aside the word choices Matt, this statement simply means that human behavior does not conform to the prevailing patterns of other biological life on planet Earth.
                  What exists exists. If something has a problem with it that's their problem.
                  And so it is, you aren't really saying anything new or relevant here. Just because it's 'his problem' doesn't mean he is or is not allowed to articulate it.
                  Myth or not, our self awareness grants constructs like should and law meaning and validity.
                  I would like to ask who said that what honor has to do with it.
                  The honorability the author grants to our mutual agreement to collectively self terminate is a personal judgment. Much like an opinion, it is valid with or without a defense.
                  "You are salvage, the flotsam of the void, the property of the Midas Foundation. My property."

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                    matt_shade — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 09:44 AM)

                    Putting aside the word choices Matt, this statement simply means that human behavior does not conform to the prevailing patterns of other biological life on planet Earth.
                    I understood that but I meant that that does not mean we're somehow cosmically disqualified for existence.
                    And so it is, you aren't really saying anything new or relevant here. Just because it's 'his problem' doesn't mean he is or is not allowed to articulate it.
                    I meant "natural law", not the author.
                    Myth or not, our self awareness grants constructs like should and law meaning and validity.
                    Fictions can have meaning. Validity is an issue of relevance.
                    The honorability the author grants to our mutual agreement to collectively self terminate is a personal judgment. Much like an opinion, it is valid with or without a defense.
                    I can't say I grasp that but you might tell my view of things is kind of straightforward? Or linear?
                    Also, this
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                    http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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                      Frank_Zimmerman — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 12:17 PM)

                      just as your post, is pointless and meaningless. it's just as meaningless as your desire to never be born. your offense to religion is pointless and meaningless. there is no importance to this point nor any of your desires that we think the way you do. none of it is important. and yet you behave as if what you're saying IS important. you're an idiot.

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                        matt_shade — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 12:27 PM)

                        just as your post, is pointless and meaningless.
                        Nothing is meaningless.
                        there is no importance to this point
                        Because "importance" is a myth.
                        none of it is important. and yet you behave as if what you're saying IS important.
                        It isn't. Because "importance" is a myth.
                        Also, this
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                        http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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                          drawsdakcab — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 05:14 PM)

                          Im significant- screamed the speck of dust Calvin
                          https://eyesoftheemptyminded.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/calvin-amp-hobbes-i_m-significant1.jpg

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                            matt_shade — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 09:22 AM)

                            The speck of dust is right.
                            EVERYTHING
                            hold some significance to something else.
                            Also, this
                            :
                            http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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                              thedarklantern — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 11:38 AM)

                              Am I the only one who got an H P Lovecraft vibe from that cartoon?
                              "Perhaps I'm a ghost"

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                                matt_shade — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 04:18 PM)

                                Comic strip, not cartoon.
                                And yes, H.P. Lovecraft has that "alone and small in the vastness of space" vibe.
                                Also, this
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                                http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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                                  thedarklantern — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 05:22 PM)

                                  In the UK, a lot of people use the term cartoon to describe comics strips, especially in newspapers, as well as for animation, and for for single panel images, eg political satire. I know you like your semantics, have you read any Chomsky or Korzybski?
                                  A related thing you may be interested in is E-Prime, if you want to go deeper into linguistics:
                                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime
                                  (I'm typing this on my phone, so maybe someone else can make the link clickable.)
                                  "Perhaps I'm a ghost"

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                                    matt_shade — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 05:24 PM)

                                    In the UK, a lot of people use the term cartoon to describe comics strips, especially in newspapers, as well as for animation, and for for single panel images, eg political satire.
                                    Oh, then sorry, I didn't know that.
                                    I know you like your semantics, have you read any Chomsky or Korzybski?
                                    No, but I'm taking their names down now. Thank you.
                                    Also, this
                                    :
                                    http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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                                      A-to-ZZZ — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 06:29 PM)

                                      In the UK, a lot of people use the term cartoon to describe comics strips
                                      This is not actually true. Cartoon in the UK means animated film. No one would ever understand it to mean a
                                      cartoon strip
                                      unless you called it a
                                      cartoon strip
                                      , which is only ever used to refer to the short
                                      cartoon strips
                                      that you get in newspapers, like Garfield or Doonsberry.
                                      So you were right and bozo is an idiot.

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                                        matt_shade — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 06:32 AM)

                                        Okay then, thank you for clearing that up.
                                        Also, this
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                                        http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000130/nest/263626706

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