How is it that the so called worlds greatest detective
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Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 06:15 AM)
"I've been planning, for months, to kill you, on the off-chance that you could possibly do harm sometime way in the future! Say what? You have some humanity in you, illustrated by you having a mother? Then everything is hunky dory!"
Do you seriously not see how badly it was handled?
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 06:40 AM)
Do you seriously not see how badly it was handled?
How is that handled poorly it's called a change of heart. Were only human.
He was standing over him with a spear ready to deliver a death blow and he realized what he was doing was not the right way to handle things. He's being totally evil by not allowing a good man to rescue his mother.
The parallels between that situation and the situation where he was defenseless to save his own mother were what snapped him out of feeling he has to follow through on his philosophy.
A 1% chance that Superman can turn bad doesn't really put Batman in a situation where he's incredibly desperate to see the job through. It's not like Superman is in the midst of turning evil at that exact moment.
As I said, he's a human just like you and I, and he's allowed to change his mind.
Make up your OWN mind. Don't be a follower.
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Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:07 AM)
How is that handled poorly it's called a change of heart.
It's called a plot convenience.
A 1% chance that Superman can turn bad doesn't really put Batman in a situation where he's incredibly desperate to see the job through.
Didn't you hear? He had to treat it as "an absolute certainty".
Except for if the enemy should happen to have a mother. Then all is well.
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:12 AM)
Oh FFS so just because someone says something is an absolute certainty it means they 100% have to follow thorough on it even if they're presented with a scenario parallels the situation that made him become Batman in the first place?
I've said "I have to do X task today because it's very important" multiple times before and then decided last minute not to do it and my reasoning was simply because I didn't feel like it.
Anyways you have your feelings towards Batman motivations and you've backed up why you feel that way, and I have my feelings towards his motivation and I've backed up why I feel that way.
They are our opinions and I figure were just going to go around in circles here.
Make up your OWN mind. Don't be a follower.
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Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:27 AM)
Oh FFS so just because someone says something is an absolute certainty it means they 100% have to follow thorough on it even if they're presented with a scenario parallels the situation that made him become Batman in the first place?
Oh, I'm sorry; I didn't realize pre-pubescent Bruce Wayne was a superpowered alien with the power to destroy mankind.
Well, in that case it becomes completely logical to drop any thoughts that he might level the world one day.
Your right about one thing, though: time to end the discussion.
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:40 AM)
we all made a pact
A bunch of 40 yr old losers making imdb pacts
Just priceless.
Actually it's been f-ckin awesome not having to talk to you, TJ, or Ogump in all honesty. Less retardation to deal with.
Thanks
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OdumC — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 11:20 AM)
You should try itwe all made a pact to stop replying to this idiot.
It wasn't hard for me, the little twat's been ignored since he had his meltdown being proven wrong about how the Kent's were horrible parents. worst depiction of the kent's on screen ever.Thanks to Batmeh v Supermeh Yawn of Justice, the "S" now stands for Sidekick -
Phantom_Panther — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 01:39 AM)
Too bad there is literally nothing in the movie that confirms this, huh?
Um, yeah there is. You quoted such proof above.
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Phantom_Panther — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 02:03 AM)
We see such proof in the way he approaches the problem stating that if there is even a 1% percent chance of him turning bad it must be treated as an absolute certainty. That is not how you view someone you think is a person and not inhuman monster that needs to be put down.
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 04:34 AM)
So you think that's proof that Batman avoided researching Superman in order to not feel conflicted?
There's no proof of that in the film i'll admit that. But that didn't bother me as I said, I can use my imagination just as easily as I can nitpick things.
To me, it's just common sense given his nature In the film. It seems like he is avoiding looking at Superman as a human altogether and more treating him as some sort of potential threat just based on the sheer amount of power he possesses as one man.
Here's what Batman probably fears could go wrong with Superman given his cynical nature:
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Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 04:53 AM)
That's nice. Me, I prefer not having to fill in gaps that have no reason to be there.
Good for you. I only feel that way if the gap is big enough to detract from my enjoyment of a film.
Make up your OWN mind. Don't be a follower.
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Phantom_Panther — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 05:34 AM)
Do you do research on people you have a prejudice towards?
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Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 06:22 AM)
Do you do research on people you have a prejudice towards?
Nope.
Do you not do research on people you are certain that they will be your enemies?
Even then, what would he research on that wasn't already known to the public? The only reason Luthor knew about the Kryptonite and the lead was because of files he got from the government.
Gotta love that reasoning - he shouldn't research the possible world-ending threat, because he probably won't find anything. Better to just charge headfirst into a fight, right?
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Phantom_Panther — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 01:46 AM)
Batman being the World's Greatest Detective is far from a universal truth. Not all versions can out think everyone and this version has severe PTSD issues from an endless war on crime that accomplished nothing making him easier for Luthor to manipulate. Bruce's crimes tend to involve criminals leaving clues all but begging him to find them so his detective skills have always been vastly overrated.