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    Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:27 AM)

    Oh FFS so just because someone says something is an absolute certainty it means they 100% have to follow thorough on it even if they're presented with a scenario parallels the situation that made him become Batman in the first place?
    Oh, I'm sorry; I didn't realize pre-pubescent Bruce Wayne was a superpowered alien with the power to destroy mankind.
    Well, in that case it becomes completely logical to drop any thoughts that he might level the world one day.
    Your right about one thing, though: time to end the discussion.
    Quidquid Latinae dictum sit, altum viditur.

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        Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:40 AM)

        we all made a pact
        A bunch of 40 yr old losers making imdb pacts
        Just priceless.
        Actually it's been f-ckin awesome not having to talk to you, TJ, or Ogump in all honesty. Less retardation to deal with.
        Thanks
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          OdumC — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 11:20 AM)

          You should try itwe all made a pact to stop replying to this idiot.
          It wasn't hard for me, the little twat's been ignored since he had his meltdown being proven wrong about how the Kent's were horrible parents. worst depiction of the kent's on screen ever.

          Thanks to Batmeh v Supermeh Yawn of Justice, the "S" now stands for Sidekick
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            Phantom_Panther — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 01:39 AM)

            Too bad there is literally nothing in the movie that confirms this, huh?
            Um, yeah there is. You quoted such proof above.
            Ah, you mean the uncertainty that apparently disappeared once Batman learned a bit more about his opponent?

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              Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 01:52 AM)

              That's not proof that Batman felt that way earliier in the movie, no.
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                Phantom_Panther — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 02:03 AM)

                We see such proof in the way he approaches the problem stating that if there is even a 1% percent chance of him turning bad it must be treated as an absolute certainty. That is not how you view someone you think is a person and not inhuman monster that needs to be put down.

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                  Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 02:24 AM)

                  So you think that's proof that Batman avoided researching Superman in order to not feel conflicted?
                  Quidquid Latinae dictum sit, altum viditur.

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                    Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 04:34 AM)

                    So you think that's proof that Batman avoided researching Superman in order to not feel conflicted?
                    There's no proof of that in the film i'll admit that. But that didn't bother me as I said, I can use my imagination just as easily as I can nitpick things.
                    To me, it's just common sense given his nature In the film. It seems like he is avoiding looking at Superman as a human altogether and more treating him as some sort of potential threat just based on the sheer amount of power he possesses as one man.
                    Here's what Batman probably fears could go wrong with Superman given his cynical nature:
                    Make up your OWN mind. Don't be a follower.
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                      Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 04:48 AM)

                      as I said, I can use my imagination just as easily as I can nitpick things.
                      That's nice. Me, I prefer not having to fill in gaps that have no reason to be there.
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                        Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 04:53 AM)

                        That's nice. Me, I prefer not having to fill in gaps that have no reason to be there.
                        Good for you. I only feel that way if the gap is big enough to detract from my enjoyment of a film.
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                          Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 05:21 AM)

                          For me, the size of the gap doesn't matter, when it's a symptom of bad writing.
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                            Phantom_Panther — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 05:34 AM)

                            Do you do research on people you have a prejudice towards?
                            Even then, what would he research on that wasn't already known to the public? The only reason Luthor knew about the Kryptonite and the lead was because of files he got from the government.

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                              Fluffis — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 06:22 AM)

                              Do you do research on people you have a prejudice towards?
                              Nope.
                              Do you not do research on people you are certain that they will be your enemies?
                              Even then, what would he research on that wasn't already known to the public? The only reason Luthor knew about the Kryptonite and the lead was because of files he got from the government.
                              Gotta love that reasoning - he shouldn't research the possible world-ending threat, because he probably won't find anything. Better to just charge headfirst into a fight, right?
                              Quidquid Latinae dictum sit, altum viditur.

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                                Phantom_Panther — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 02:39 AM)

                                Maybe you missed it but Batman is not the most stable of individuals.

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                                  Phantom_Panther — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 01:46 AM)

                                  Batman being the World's Greatest Detective is far from a universal truth. Not all versions can out think everyone and this version has severe PTSD issues from an endless war on crime that accomplished nothing making him easier for Luthor to manipulate. Bruce's crimes tend to involve criminals leaving clues all but begging him to find them so his detective skills have always been vastly overrated.

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                                    Ramboman24 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 04:43 AM)

                                    Batman being the World's Greatest Detective is far from a universal truth. Not all versions can out think everyone and this version has severe PTSD issues from an endless war on crime that accomplished nothing making him easier for Luthor to manipulate. Bruce's crimes tend to involve criminals leaving clues all but begging him to find them so his detective skills have always been vastly overrated.
                                    I've never read a great Batman mystery. The Long Halloween is pretty overrated and barely holds up as a mystery story. They always make certain sacrifices with comic book characters when bringing them to the big screen.
                                    Nolan's Batman was a boring fighter but had more detective skills
                                    Snyder's Batman kicks more ass but has less detective skills.
                                    whatever
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                                      Deathstroke01 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 12:42 PM)

                                      Batman was never interested in finding out about Superman's civilian identity. MCU fans getting dumber by the day.
                                      I'm the thing that keeps you up at night, the evil that haunts every dark corner of your mind

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                                        CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 03:12 PM)

                                        Does he ever research who the Joker's mother is ?
                                        What has this got to do with anything? Unless I am mistaken the joker would not take anything more than a bullet to the head to kill. Its one thing going up against a crazy guy with a pale skin condition a few tattoos and bad teeth than going up against an alien that can survive a blast from a nuclear missile don't you think? When facing a foe that is on the power level of Superman don't you think that you would want to know every single scrap of information possible?
                                        It's not about whether he's corrupt now or not. It's about whether there's a 1% chance that he'll ever turn. Batman just decided he was going to wipe out the alien eliminate the potential of Superman's powers being used/abused for evil.
                                        That's right we sit though the whole movie with this being the motivation and reason that Batman feels the need to kill Superman and here is one of the biggest issues with the films plot. Martha being the name of Superman mother does not change the 1% chance that he might turn against us in the slightest. The fact that Batman ends up seeing that Superman has humanity in him does not change this either in fact if anything it should have made Batman think that there was more risk if anything it was not like he was seeing the good side of humanity in this film was it? It was also not as though Batman even has a change of heart we see him killing Lex minions in the very next scene and then punching girls in the face and hiding behind children in SS.
                                        It wasn't hard for me, the little twat's been ignored since he had his meltdown being proven wrong about how the Kent's were horrible parents. worst depiction of the kent's on screen ever.
                                        Oh god don't mention the Kent again you will break Rambo again OdumC for god sakes man its nearly new year have some pity.
                                        To make a great film you need three things - the script, the script and the script -Alfred Hitchcock

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                                          Deathstroke01 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 04:37 PM)

                                          As I said, dumber by the day.
                                          I'm the thing that keeps you up at night, the evil that haunts every dark corner of your mind

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