How does mom plan to go back to…?
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delalluvia — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 04:22 PM)
God could certainly do that. He can do anything he wants, which makes the whole idea of Him needing Lucifer or Amenadiel to handle anything on earth pretty silly.
This idea is just as silly for religions as well. Why god needs angels, messengers, human agents, prophets, etc., etc.
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actionmanrandell — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 05:52 AM)
not really. lets say one day you wake up with the power to do basically anything you want. so you use that power to invent some awesome tehnology, now that you can do almost anything do you A mass produce the invention with your powers or B start a fabrication company and hire a bunch of workers.
just because god can do anything doesn't mean he would do absolutely everything himself if he can just as easily send a messenger why wouldn't he -
Tantrums — 9 years ago(November 15, 2016 12:51 PM)
Great question.
Pos1. They'll use Azrael's Blade somehow to make Azrael show up and then persuade her (or even threaten her) to give them a lift up.
Pos2. We still don't know what kinda powers Mom's really got now. Once she co-created the Angels in the Big-Bang with her Ex. So maybe she'd have the power to give Lucifer/Amenadiel new wings (who knows, maybe she's the reason at all that Amenadiel got impotent!).
Pos3. They'll borrow the phone from Fiore and DeBlanc to call "Silver City Taxi". -
actionmanrandell — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 05:55 AM)
they didn't literally create the universe in the sense that they didn't snap there fingers. lucifer stated that his mom and dad fell in love and beep which caused the universe to come into existence, and they also had many children(all of the angels are naturally born the human way)
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kurt-2000 — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 08:24 AM)
Here's my guess Rat. I think Mum will attempt to kill Chloe. If she succeeds, she'll assume that Lucifer will be so depressed that he'll want to go to Heaven. And God will then bring the whole family back into Heaven.
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litha-riddle — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 11:03 AM)
I imagine Chloe would go to heaven if she died. Killing her would make Lucifer want to go to heaven to get her back.
Although I think god is still protecting chloe for Lucifer, that's why Uriel's patterns didn't kill her?
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Rat_lover — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 11:34 AM)
I think god IS protecting her.
My theory, Chloe is nothing supernaturally special and God put this good-hearted person in Luci's path to change him. God knew Luci would meet her with Delilah's murder, and decided to make her immune to Lucifer's mojo and make him vulnerable, so that he would be intrigued and hang around her, and slowly change for the better. -
barbarawstuller — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 03:44 PM)
Although I think god is still protecting chloe for Lucifer, that's why Uriel's patterns didn't kill her?
I had not thought of that. If that's the case, then He did not withdraw his favor and is okay with Mom being on earth probably. -
centrd — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 08:04 PM)
God can take any form He wants. If they stick with canon, He can appear as any human He wants, as Lucifer himself, as a ball of light, or as "The Presence" which is what He really is.
Mom clearly is not as powerful a deity as Dad if He was able to strip her of her power and send her to Hell.
I mean God is the ONE TRUE GOD. No other God is at His level, although lesser Gods do exist, in the comic anyway.
"There is a crack in everything
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centrd — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 08:32 PM)
They have changed
very few
things, and why speculate wildly when there's canon to go to first for clues? If they change it, so be it, but until they do, I'll stick with the backstory, which, by the way, is considered one of the best comics of all time. So as Lucifer would ask, "why mess with perfection?"
"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" Leonard Cohen -
Chris12955 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 08:43 PM)
They have changed
very
few things
I think Mom's inclusion is a rather huge change. Lucifer's physical appearance is different. Not to mention the whole solving crimes with the L.A.P.D.. Of course Chloe Decker, and various other characters are exclusive to this. Various other plot elements. So no, not very few things.
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centrd — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 08:48 PM)
No, everything you've mentioned could have been written in future stories of the comic, so no changes in canon. EXCEPT for the birth order situation and hierarchical status. Mom is a big change, but even the comic could have gone there. Heck, the comic just gave Lucifer a son a few issues ago, and comic canon has always said the angels are all infertile except for Michael. So we have yet to learn how that was possible. The point being, none of the story lines in the show have contradicted the storylines of the comic or possible storylines. That's the nature of comic storytelling. Each new writer takes it in new directions. Heck, Lucifer even became a murder crime solver in the recent reprisal of the comic series, for a little while anyway. And hair color, that's nothing. It's not a serious change to the basic premise of the story. It's superficial.
"There is a crack in everything
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centrd — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 08:43 PM)
Just to be clear, your assumptions are based on speculation and leaps in logic. There's no basis for assuming that God has the same kind of body as Charlotte. There's nothing in the show, or the comic, or religious canon to support that. It makes more sense to base our understanding of God on the known history, like the comic on which it's based or the Bible. And we know from both religious canon and comic canon that Lucifer's dad is the One True God. Not some lesser God. However, Charlotte can easily be a lesser God, but that's based on the comic only since there are no lesser or female gods in the Bible.
Now if the writers want to change that, great. But so far, all we've got evidence of is the history that's already there. Nothing in the show has indicated that Charlotte is as powerful as God, in fact, she's been shown to be just the opposite.
"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" Leonard Cohen -
litha-riddle — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 04:53 AM)
I just realised that chloe being a miracle makes her divine. Only something divine can heal an angel. If Chloe had touched Lucifer's scars in Manly Whatnots she'd have healed his wings. Maybe that's how she learns the truth, they have sex and his wings grow back!
Thus she see's the angel side of him and not his devil face.
Proud Lucifer addict.
