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The Guardian AND James Olsen are ruining this show.

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    jakubmike — 9 years ago(November 23, 2016 06:54 AM)

    Guardian is cool, I would like to see him fight using heavy metal camera as a weapon screaming "You broke my camera, now I will break you with it!"

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      Educator07 — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 04:50 AM)

      That made me lol.
      Where are the Asian characters DC CW? #MoreAsians

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        Educator07 — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 04:50 AM)

        I like him as well. Though he has an infatuation with being a hero.
        Where are the Asian characters DC CW? #MoreAsians

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          great_one_32789 — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 09:15 AM)

          It's not that he's bad but he's taking away from the premise of the show.

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            neodragon-96532 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 11:20 AM)

            Does this board do anything other than whining about James/Jimmy?

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              koffeenkreame41-1 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 01:50 PM)

              Does this board do anything other than whining about James/Jimmy?
              Doesn't seem like it.
              He could be the most disliked character on this show for most people anyway.
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                PaulG28 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 02:13 PM)

                Nope lol. Even when he had 20 seconds of screentime in a episode. still filled with childish complaints

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                  Pumpyjones — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 07:01 PM)

                  That was NOT 20 seconds! I actually don't have a problem with James (or with James/Kara), but wtf is this storyline? Why can't they write him doing things that the character would do? He's supposed to be the Lois Lane character. Kara is the Superman character.
                  I don't want to see Lois Lane as a supe and I don't want to see Jimmy Olsen as a vigilante. They're supposed to be the people who Kara/Clark protect and whom evil people try to kidnap/kill to get to them. If you give the love interest/BFF powers, then why does the super powered person need to exist?

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                    DragonbradZ — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 11:41 AM)

                    They think by doing this, it gives the show some 'balance'
                    Problem is they axed the whole romance angle so without that he was a useless alpha male so they decided to make him a hero to give him some sense of purpose even if it doesn't make any goddamn sense as he's now the head of catco..it's not like cat Grant wanted to be a superhero lol.
                    (she was the stern surrogate motherly figure in the show that would preach stuff though so now that she is gone, Olsen cant really fill that)
                    Also the reason why Mon-El is kinda of a jerk, weak, and even though he exhibits some alpha male tendencies, is demasculated in scenes when Kara is around 😛
                    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/797-Transformers-Revenge

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                      Pumpyjones — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 09:29 PM)

                      They should've just done a better job writing the romance and made him a hard core reporter who put himself in danger (a'la Lois Lane) for stories, or they shouldve gotten rid or him. He is a redundant character this way. Why would this show need a vigilante with no superpowers when Supergirl, J'onn, Mon-El (and sometimes Clark) all have powers and save people? And, on the human end, Alex/Maggie are both highly trained agents/detectives with years of experience and Winn is a superstar tech genius?
                      Like, James is just some dude who taught himself how to kickbox and got his buddy to make him a cool outfit. This is such a stupid use of his character. I'm all for diversity, but why give him this storyline? If he were still dating Kara, it might kind of be interesting for her to keep crossing paths with him in the field (I'd still prob hate it, bc she should be the hero of the show, not him), but since they're not dating, it's especially pointless.
                      Like, why is he not investigating Cadmus and endangering his life that way? Wouldn't it have been better if he were the one tracking down the identity of the head of Cadmus and he had gotten kidnapped instead of Mon-El? And then they'd shot him instead, which would've been scarier, since he's human and probably more prone to dying than Mon-El? And then Kara had tried to sacrifice herself to save him? Even if they're just BFF and not romantic it makes him more relevant to the plot.
                      If this were Superman, that exactly what they would've done with Lois Lane.

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                        Educator07 — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 05:07 AM)

                        Why would this show need a vigilante with no superpowers when Supergirl, J'onn, Mon-El (and sometimes Clark) all have powers and save people?
                        Actually, these characters rarely save people. They spend the vast majority of their time fighting bad guys. Not saying that as a negative, soldiers have a purpose and allegedly keep the bad guys off our soil, but on a day to day basis they do not save lives.
                        That's what the comics and the early Batman and Superman movies got right that these shows don't. Two or three times a season (typically when another mask shows up) we actually see Kara interact with people she's saved.
                        James doesn't save people, he fights bad guys. The Flash, Arrow, and Supergirl pretty much fight bad guys at night outside or in abandoned buildings. If there are civilians, all they are doing is running away.
                        I'd love to see an arc where Kara or James or Hank saves someone and they become obsessed with tracking them down. But that would cut down on fight time.
                        I have no problem with Jimmy being the Guardian, but his motivation is wonky and he's not a hero. He needs to stop saying that.
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                          Educator07 — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 04:55 AM)

                          Also the reason why Mon-El is kinda of a jerk, weak, and even though he exhibits some alpha male tendencies, is demasculated in scenes when Kara is around 😛
                          Chris Wood is about 5'11. Far from an alpha male. The CW doesn't do alpha male. They hire a bunch of pretty boys in their 20s and 30s that cry every other episode and seem like they would be much more comfortable kissing guys than girls. Guarantee they all shave their chests.
                          Chris Wood is a metrosexual, Mehcad too.
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                            peter-rushkin — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 11:50 AM)

                            The only reason why he's on, is because "diversity".
                            He should be axed. He was fine for season 1, now get rid of him.
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                                aspiringwriter16 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 07:32 PM)

                                You say it's not a racism thing, but then you go off saying he SHOULD be white. Him being white and red-headed isn't vital to his character.
                                I think I've seen more people complain about Jimmy Olsen being black than I have when they shot him in the head in the first ten minutes of Batman v Superman.
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                                  brailsford — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 08:00 PM)

                                  Yet they are using his looks and now deciding he needs to be a more prominent and imposing character, a vigilante, cause scaling back his character isn't an option (you know, like the character normally is, if it was a white red head, wouldn't be an issue at all)
                                  No point trying to show mercy to the stupid, they wouldn't know what to do with it anyway

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                                    DragonbradZ — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 08:15 PM)

                                    Let's be honest here:
                                    Nobody would of taken Ginger haired, freckled nerdy Jimmie Olsen becoming the Guardian lol
                                    And the show already ruined Jim Harper's story previously
                                    (the original Guardian in the comics)
                                    , so that rules him out
                                    unless they later go with the Jim Harper Cadmus enhanced clone: the "Golden Guardian" storyline, who had enhanced strength and reflexes, and an accelerated healing factor (which I doubt they'd do now but whatever lol)
                                    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/797-Transformers-Revenge

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                                      AdroKwix — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 10:22 PM)

                                      It feels like they make these decisions based on the actors bitching about their roles. Mehcad Brooks probably asked for more action so they looked through the lore and found a character they could merge him with. They don't care if they butchered 4 storylines in the process.

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                                        Educator07 — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 04:46 AM)

                                        Mehcad Brooks probably asked for more action so they looked through the lore and found a character they could merge him with.
                                        Pure speculation and a bit nonsensical since shows use stunt actors for the vast majority of action scenes especially the more interesting and complex ones.
                                        Over time actors get to know their characters and give opinions on what they would and would not do (I.E. Soap operas where you can play a character over 20 years), but Mehcad had only been in the role a year.
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                                          AdroKwix — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 05:24 AM)

                                          I know that they use stunt actors, but giving his character more depth and interesting actions sequences, works better for the actor involved.

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