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scarlet8 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 12:46 PM)
I'm guilty of using the term 'true face' to describe it too, but I think in effect both the Lucifer we normally see and the devil one are both true. Like two different sides of the same coin, the angel and the devil. It's possible God, in a way, 'cursed' him with the more hideous visage when he fell as a reminder/punishment of what happened, or to help Lucifer with the job he was tasked (torturing souls) or a combination of both. Definitely Lucifer is a unique case among angels, as far as we know.
It would be interesting to see the show explore the duel faces more. Since currently this is all just my headcanon. LOL!
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red_moon_lily — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 02:01 PM)
Who are the people that are saying that the devil face is Lucifer's real face? I went through Joe Henderson's, Chris Rafferty's, Lucifer Writers Room's, and Lucifer Fox's tweets while the episode was airing, and none of them made any mention of it being Lucifer's real face.
I know that some reviewers and recappers are referring to the devil face as his real face, but they don't have authority on the matter.
I've already posted this many times, but Lucifer's real facethe one he had in heaven is the one that looks like Tom Ellis. The reason I believe this is because of the wing scars. -
centrd — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 03:31 PM)
@LuciferOnFox tweeted it. That's my whole point. They need to get their mythology straight and everyone on the same page. If LOF is parroting the common "true face" fan belief, then the writers need to realize their mixed messages have led to certain assumptions they may not want to have fans making. Just like when people started assuming that Lucifer was also in a borrowed body because his mother is. It's amazing how this stuff spreads. You see this "true face" business
all over
fan fiction. Which, I'm surprised to say, has become my new form of guilty pleasure reading. But you really get a feel for exactly what assumptions are being made out there among the fan base from fan fiction. This is an invested fan base that cares enough to carry on the stories. And they're getting their info from the show, not twitter, interviews, etc.
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red_moon_lily — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 04:27 PM)
If networks are anything like regular companies, the likelihood of each department being on the same page is slim. That's bad, but that's usually how it is.
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centrd — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 03:35 PM)
And I agree with you that Tom Ellis's face is Lucifer's "true face". But it seems you and I are among the few.
Whatever, I'm over it at this point. It's exhausting just trying to explain myself. Even though I know I'm not crazy.
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Melopsittacus_undulatus — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 03:33 PM)
I just assumed it was a projection he used to scare people. But with this reveal today, it looked like he was really showing Linda himself.
I just watched this episode. Lucifer thinks of himself as a monster, he says so himself. Linda wants him to tell her who he really is, no more metaphors. Judging by the look on his face, Lucifer feels he has no other option than to show, not tell her, who he thinks he really is. Even if he doesn't want to, he really needs her to believe him so he can truly talk with someone. And by the look on his face afterwards, seeing as his facade has fried Linda's brain, he wasn't surprised about her reaction.
I don't think his monster face is his real look, rather something he uses to drive home the fact that he is the stuff of nightmares. That and the fact he actually believes he is a monster. -
readerf61 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 04:38 PM)
OK, a quick OT question..were you appalled at the attempt at Dutch at the Stroopwaffel truck? So, hagelslag is tough to saytwo g'sbut stroop? I'm actually always happy when I hear or see a mistake that most people will miss, but I thought of you immediately, while chuckling.well, demonically.
And.it's not New Year's yet, Luci!
No, David. No one is happy in a poodle skirt and a sweater set.
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centrd — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 04:52 PM)
Oh no, I'm not at all versed in Dutch. So tell me more? Who did what?
All I got is this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Nl-stroopwafels2.ogg
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readerf61 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 05:26 PM)
Mostly it was a lot of mispronounced Dutch words. And my husband's family only had oliebollen for a NY's day treat. I'm not sure if that is all Dutch people, but my husband would have been surprised to find them available all the time. But Lucifer is right; they taste a lot better than the English translation would have you think
No, David. No one is happy in a poodle skirt and a sweater set.
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Melopsittacus_undulatus — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 05:10 AM)
I'm actually always happy when I hear or see a mistake that most people will miss, but I thought of you immediately, while chuckling.well, demonically.
Love you too, Reader.
Actually, I was more surprised by the fact that there is such a thing as Stroopwafel trucks in de US. At least I won't be homesick if I ever get the chance to cross the pond.
Hearing those familiar words coming from the Devil's lips was a treat! I must say the pronounciation was really close for non-native speakers. I'm impressed. This I could follow, in POI those Dutch commands to Bear not so much.
Although some small details for nerds like me:
stroopwafel: "o" as in "home", "a" as in "Chicago"
oliebollen: first "o" as in "home", second "o" as in "soccer"
hagelslag: first "a" as in "Chicago", second "a" as in "arm", "g" as in "loch"
Stroopwafels are great with a cup of tea or coffee, but basically always edible.
Oliebollen are usually a New Year's eve treat, but also for special occasions. Best eaten warm with a lot of powdered sugar.
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centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 08:03 AM)
Well, that makes so much more sense. (Don't know why I got a notice for reader's post.)
I do love how Oliebollen & Oily Balls sound so similar. Mmmmmm.:)
I wonder if Chris Rafferty's a big fan of Dutch treats? Interesting Food Truck choice. He even showed the restaurant logo on Twitter and asked who'd eat at a place Freddy's Dutch Oven.
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readerf61 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 05:08 PM)
That was weird! I got a notice for my own post!
There used to be a "Dutch store" about an hour's drive from here, and he sold all the wonderful things my husband can't find in the US. They owner was even a baker, and at New Year's he would make oliebollen. Amazon pretty much put him out of business, but also he was getting old and his kids didn't want to run the store. Hubby misses his big chocolate initial for Sinterklaas and some pickles and herring, but he goes home often enough to get most things occasionally.
No, David. No one is happy in a poodle skirt and a sweater set.
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centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 06:24 PM)
Well, at least now I know I wasn't losing my mind. I was seriously confused about why you were asking me about Dutch pastries.
It's tough when you move to new regions (I know, I've done it a lot), and the things that were your favorites are no longer available. Especially these days when there are so few mom & pop or specialty shops left. In California anyway, they've all been pushed out for national chains so there's very little variety anymore.
I'm glad he gets to go home for the things that are special to him.
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Melopsittacus_undulatus — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 09:32 AM)
Not to mention all the speculaas and pepernoten this time of year! Thinking about all the tasty Dutch food, I wonder if I ever could get used to not having them.
I don't think I would survive without my chocolade vlokken on my bread. -
centrd — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 10:12 AM)
Try craving something from your childhood home when you're pregnant! It's the worst. Your body and mind just keep screaming at you that you HAVE to have it.
My poor hubby drove all over the tiny state of Delaware and into the state of Pennsylvania looking for my craving. My first pregnancy was really strange. For some weird reason, I had all-day-long morning sickness for months. And the only thing I could eat was pineapple(!?) and then after Thanksgiving, mashed potatoes. So I had this extremely limited diet when I got this out-of-nowhere craving for a Dairy Queen burger with this special sauce that I hadn't had since I was a kid living on the west coast. So my husband went to every Dairy Queen he could find and none of them sold anything but ice cream. I thought I was going to die. For about 7 months. The last couple of months I was no longer sick but started craving champagne (again, wtf?). At least that was easily available and I was planning to drink some in the hospital to celebrate the birth. But as soon as I had the baby, the craving was gone. lol. And the really weird thing is, my firstborn hates pineapple! I swear, human pregnancy has to be the weirdest reproductive process that has ever evolved.
So anyway, I REALLY can relate to craving something you remember that's just not available.
"Beauty chains me to the earthThe heavens are not a place for human souls."