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Cold_In_Space — 14 years ago(January 30, 2012 02:40 AM)
I Love ABBA and Roxette from Sweden, different styles but both great, even if they don't sing in Swedish lol. I heardd Marie from Roxette has some songs all in Swedish, should I check them out? I am a fan of older music in general.
By the way, what are some traditional Swedish foods? And do you have comic books there? Here I only managed to read ONE Spider-Man story that I got from a rich kid years ago. Thank goodness for the fall of communism. Not saying the Soviets didn't show cartoons but they never would've let us see Spidey or Batman.
I think I hate Dana more with her every appearance, I can't wait till Maxine becomes a more proeminent character later on.
I didn't mean literally drinking as I only drink beer and soft drinks but I'll drink what you want to. I really hope we'll have that meeting someday, our preferences in superheroes are very much alike.
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Scrite — 14 years ago(January 30, 2012 02:36 PM)
I like Roxette and the Swedish songs Marie has done without Per. You should definitely check them out and see if you like them.
Well Swedish food culture has been taken over by pizza, hamburgers, sushi, Thai food, tacos etc just like everywhere else but a very Swedish meal is meatballs with potatoes. We have Swedish comics in regular supermarkets but for you need to go to designated comic book stores for everything else and those stores are quite rare. I buy all my American comics as trade paper backs from online bookstores. I usually let a trade go along when I buy new textbooks for my studies. (I'm a film student working my way to a bachelor degree at the moment.)
Maxine was simply a much better character, it's a shame because Dana could have been interesting if they had made an actual effort. She could be compared to the Gwen Stacy of the 1960's comics, just plain and boring.
I thought you meant it literally but soft drinks is no problems for me. I consider my self a flexible enough person to adjust myself to what others want's to drink. (Going out with real drinkers - I get drunk as well.) Going out with someone who doesn't drink alcohol - I drink coca cola instead.)
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Cold_In_Space — 14 years ago(January 30, 2012 08:22 PM)
Coke is fine. I'll listen to Marie's songs too. I like meatballs and potatoes, but I'll also eat pizza and other stuff, no problem.
I like Roxette better cos they have some really emotional ones, ABBA is fine too, I think I like "The Winner Takes it all" best from ABBA and "It Must HAve been love" from Roxette.
I agree Max was great like the female Robin, sort of also Kevin Conroy was AWESOME even if he wasn't Batman but just Bruce and a lot older.
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Scrite — 14 years ago(January 31, 2012 02:05 PM)
Kevin Conroy is AWESOME! He's will always be the "real" Batman for me.
I can't say that I ate too much Swedish food, I live just a few minutes (by foot) from a great and extremely cheap pizza place as an example so I eat pizza every Friday.
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Scrite — 14 years ago(February 01, 2012 02:49 PM)
I couldn't stand Raimi's version at all. I find it funny and sad at the same time how people would praise Raimi as a god only to start calling him a hack after the release of Spider-Man 3. I loathed the films from the very beginning.
I could probably rant for days but a few of the highlights in my hatred includes:
Raimi did not "get" Peter Parker as a person at all which is clearly shown in his origin. In the 616 universe Peter has a chance to stop a robber and he doesn't. The reason is that all the years of bullying has made him a selfish person who only looks out for himself thinking that he is all alone in the world. That cost him Uncle Ben, the man who had been like a father to him ever since his parents died. I think the most important and overlooked trait when it comes to Peter is guilt. The guilt he feels could probably compare to that of my house god Franz Kafka. Or as Mary Jane summaries it in "Soul of the Hunter" (Awful comic, but it had a few really good scenes.)
Mary Jane: Peter Parker You were born guilty! Kraven may have been your enemy but by god, the man killed himself! And somewhere inside you is a voice saying: "I could have stopped him. I could have saved him."
Peter: No. Never.
Mary Jane: Yes. Always.
That's what's makes you you. That's one of the reasons why I love you. There's a part of you that wants to save the whole world. That want's to take all the suffering out there and magically web it all away.
But it doesn't work that way Peter. And if you don't get some help with this it's going to eat away at you. At us.
Man No one understood Spider-Man like DeMatteis Why did he ever quit the title!?
The film on the other hand gave Peter a chance to stop a robber that robbed a man who just screwed Peter over half a minute before, the fact that Peter did not stop him had nothing to do with selfishness but with him being a human being
And don't even get me started on how the trilogy took a huge dump all over my girl Mary Jane
Aunt May did not help either. "How Spider-Man 3 should have ended" summarised her role in the films perfectly:
Peter: I'm gona ask MJ to merry me.
Aunt May: Oh, this reminds me of a long and boring story of you're uncle Ben and I which will only make you feel miserable and make the wrong decision.
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Cold_In_Space — 14 years ago(February 02, 2012 02:13 AM)
Let's quit talking about Raimi, please. He's in the same league as Spidey Unlimited for me. Even Nick Hammond was more likable and had charisma as Peter Parker than Tobey Maguire.
- Gothamite #4
There's no room for pity in this business, babe.
- Gothamite #4
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Cold_In_Space — 14 years ago(February 02, 2012 09:17 AM)
By the way, did you ever watch the kids' horror-drama-family series Eerie, Indiana in Sweden? Starring Omri Katz and later Jason Marsden. It was pretty good and now it's just how I remembered it. Topbey had a guest appearnce in one of those and I liked him better than his role in Raimi's films.
Raimi was never right for Spidey IMO. he should've stuck to Xena and Evil Dead.- Gothamite #4
There's no room for pity in this business, babe.
- Gothamite #4
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Scrite — 14 years ago(February 02, 2012 12:14 PM)
No I'm afraid I haven't watched that. The popular "foreign" series in Sweden were all for some reason Australian.
Raimi should definitely have stuck with Evil Dead, I wouldn't dislike him today if he had done that and he wouldn't have ruined Spider-Man for a whole generation of kids. (The worst part is that Spectacular Spider-Man used his crap for Peter's background. I'm sure that it was the executive producers at Sony who forced it on the story editor but it's just as bad anyways)
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Cold_In_Space — 14 years ago(February 02, 2012 08:10 PM)
They shouldn't have copied Alfred Molina's Doc Ock look to a tee in TSSM, I liked Efrem Zimbalist, Jr better, even with the armor he had the classic haircut and goggles.
If you ever have the time and like comedy-horror-kids shows, you should give Eerie, Indiana a closer look. Like I said before it's not just about nostalgia in my case, the show holds up well.
When I heard that Sam Raimi directed Spider-Man I was like "What??? the guy with the evil dead and Joxer from Xena??" I wonder why did he get the job anyway, no disrespect to him or his work.- Gothamite #4
There's no room for pity in this business, babe.
- Gothamite #4
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Scrite — 14 years ago(February 03, 2012 04:04 PM)
Efram Zimbalist Jr was the real Doc Ock. I guess Alfred Molina worked in a live action movie but it was a mistake to copy him to a cartoon. (People really need to learn the fact that things that work in one story telling medium doesn't necessarily have to work in the others.)
I'll keep them name of Eerie, Indiana in mind for later. I'm watching Avatar: The Last Airbender right now but I'm always looking for more shows with that episode length. (I might haven mentioned it in an above post but If I didn't) I start every morning with drinking a cup of hot chocolate and watching an episode from an usually) animated series. That's how I got through the whole DCAU one episode at a time, one cartoon at a time. (It's actually a really fascinating way to watch, before I started doing it I would usually just watch X episode here and Y episodes there.)
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Cold_In_Space — 14 years ago(February 03, 2012 07:19 PM)
I'm currently going to school, playing various games, writing, reading and watching Batman beyond. Not all at the same time of course.
. Like I said I'll go for TSSM and then maybe Young Justice.
I've noticed the difference in quality between seaons 1 and 2 in BB almost immediately, but it's still good.- Gothamite #4
There's no room for pity in this business, babe.
- Gothamite #4
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Scrite — 14 years ago(February 06, 2012 05:26 AM)
I remember when I went to school every day I'm glad that's over.
I'm having lectures twice a week at most these days, I have probably forgotten what it's like to be in school from 8 to 15:30 five days a week.
Batman Beyond season 1 is sure better than season two. My favorite episode of season two is without doubt Once Burned since Melanie returns, another episode I really liked was Zeta. (I'm a huge fan of robot philosophy.)
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Scrite — 14 years ago(February 06, 2012 01:54 PM)
I can't remember a robot episode so for a second there I almost considered looking it up again but then I came to my senses. I think I might have blocked it all out. (Well except for Jennifer Hale doing MJ, Karen (she was hot!) and the milf who's house Peter rents a room in.
I have blocked the cartoon out other than that though!
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Scrite — 14 years ago(February 07, 2012 02:15 PM)
I think it's the most interesting episode of the cartoon. A problem with most episodes is that they are extremely easy to follow and that everything is black and white. This one makes a huge exception from that rule.
Yes Melanie screws Batman (not Terry!) over but she does it for her family. Not because of profit but because she despite everything that happened still loves her parents for being her parents.
Dana realize her mistake seeing that everything was a "test" and gets really mad but Terry (Batman) arrives just in time to miss this. I think this is what it all comes down too. The story might have turned out differently if Terry could understand Melanie fully but he arrived at the scene too late and he blew his second chance as well by throwing away her note.
The last scene is extremely predictable but it still saddened me. (I kept thinking "I don't want to be right, don't you dare throw it away Terry!" - Which quickly turned into "No! I hate it when I'm right!") In the end it boils down to the whole "femme fatale vs the girl next door" dilemma.
Melanie is hotter, more exciting and she can keep up with Terry's life as Batman in a way that Dana never could but she has the huge drawback of having betrayed Terry in the past as well as being part of a family of villains.
Whilst Dana is extremely boring she is nice, reliable and safe as well. She's the kind of woman a man usually want in the long run.
You had seen the complete cartoon before right? Because I was about to write about his third and final encounter with Melanie but I stopped myself for the moment.
That said I will always think that he should have chosen Melanie. My usual comment when people ask me about Batman Beyond is "Terry should have chosen Melanie and that's all I have to say about that."
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Cold_In_Space — 14 years ago(February 08, 2012 10:40 PM)
Umm, stop yourself please. I last watched it several years ago, I really want to see all of them like it's something new
What do you think of TSSM's FInal Curtain?- Gothamite #4
I've learned that it's OK to be flawed - Winona Ryder
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Scrite — 14 years ago(February 09, 2012 04:29 AM)
I'll hold future comments about Batman Beyond back for the time being then.
I LOVED Final Curtain! That episode is in my opinion one of the all time great season finales when it comes to cartoons. (The best one on a technical level is obviously "Epilogue" - The season finale of the first season of Justice League Unlimited but that's another story.)
I heard a fantastic thing once, there was according to the people who watched Final Curtain when it premiered an error with the sound so most of the viewers had to watch the episode without the dialogue or perhaps without any sound at all. (I never figured that out and I watched the whole cartoon on YouTube.) The incredible fact is that the episode was said to work almost perfectly as a silent one. Some viewers even believed that it was meant to be silent. Now when I do think about it it would be amazing to see a completely silent episode in a future cartoon. I mean Marvel writers had a silent month once were no dialogue was allowed. The silent Ultimate Spider-Man comic was among my favorites of the whole run. The problem is obviously the target audience, I don't think that most 10 year old boys the executive producers want to target have the patience and concentration required to enjoy a silent episode. Hell many adults don't*
*This is my being Swedish according to some people. It's said that Swedes understand silence in a way other people don't. The Swedish director Tomas Alfredson was hired to direct "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" because of being Swedish. The producers wanted a director who would understand silence. I'm not sure if I can believe it though, I think it's an unfair generalization to claim that Swedes should have some sort of better understanding of silence just because of their nationality. I think that preferences like this are completely individual.
The interaction between Peter and Gwen was incredible and I could easily see how it would work out great even without sound but the best part was without any doubt Peter breaking up with Liz Allan. It felt so realistic! Liz is a popular girl who lowered her social status by dating a nerd like Peter. If she get's dumped by Peter her reputation will be ruined for life. She has no choice but to pretend that it was she who got tired of him to save her reputation.
I had a very similar experience back when I was 18. I was having a public fling with this girl I meet. I think I was at least mildly interested in trying out a relationship with her but she made it clear a few days later that she had regrets about what we did and that she wanted it to stay as a one time thing. It was thus pretty clear that she meant that she would be happy if we spent the rest of our lives without ever interacting again. I spent a lot of time afterwards making sure that all my friends "knew" that it was I who did not want her and not the other way around. I'm definitely not proud of it but I did what I had to do in order to save my social status in the group.
The scene were Liz cries really saddened me. I always wanted for (and knew that) Peter to (would) end up with Gwen. It's still sad to see Liz because she's not evil, she was a totally great girl who was undeserving of the heartbreak. That was what made it so great! A very common problem (especially in awful romantic comedies) is that the person who is going to get dumped always needs to be a cheater or a unsympathetic person in general as to justify it. Spectacular Spider-Man did a fantastic job steering clear of the route, the only character who were plain evil was Sally Avril and even she showed hints of a little humanity near the end.
The best episode to capture the social rules of a teens life is the one were Peter takes MJ to the dance. I don't think that I have ever seen any other scene even closely as realistic as that. The problem is that I always fail to explain who the scene is so great. It's like I have too much to say about it and I usually end up screwing up because of it.
When the choice is between a American and a Russian film, always choose the latter.