Marilyn was a genius
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Sophienoire — 8 months ago(August 04, 2025 05:20 PM)
the leading men of Hollywood who paid her salary forced that image on her tho, like they forced pretty much every aspiring actress at that time, but a few actresses survived that and became stars with a long-living career or they refused their bosses' doctrines and never made it in Hollywood, while Marilyn was also mentally ill which led to her untimely death.
after all tho, Marilyn Monroe is now a true Hollywood icon.
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Sophienoire — 8 months ago(August 04, 2025 05:38 PM)
i know what you're saying, but you can still see how wrong the system is that bore cases like Marilyn, systems that seek out star potential, birth stars, build them up, glorify them so the consumers, the viewers, the fans, us as the people throw money at their company, and then ultimately destroy them. Marilyn was merely a product and was treated as such, a goods for the people to consume, a merchandise to make lots and lots of money out of. that's Capitalism for you.
i don't blame Marilyn for doing what she was told in a profession she chose to pursue, yes, bc for Marilyn acting was a passion, a lifelong dream. she loved what she was doing and lived for it, so yeah, she did what it takes to be at the top and stay at the top. and last but not least, she did this for a living. it was her job. and she was a hard worker. plain and simple.
it's tragic that fame wasn't doing her good tho and she should have realised that, a lot earlier. i agree that was her fault, but she was also mentally ill and that got exploited by her bosses. so i do not put blame on her, but i put all the blame on the system.
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sheetsadam1 — 8 months ago(August 04, 2025 05:16 PM)
Women in general and women who look like Marilyn especially are never taken seriously. It was worse back then, but it's still an issue today (not to turn this into a political rant, but note how AOC is written off as an airhead by the right-wing media). Hedy Lamarr was another excellent example. I doubt people realize even today how ****ing brilliant she was… as they mindlessly use technology she helped pave the way for.
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It’smonicah — 8 months ago(August 04, 2025 05:45 PM)
Britney is a more unfortunate case because everyone including her own family controlled her in every way and her mental decline and instability was the outcome of all that. She seemed completely normal and happy before all that and she gave smart remarks in interviews a lot. She’s a good actress too. It’s just that society never took her seriously because of all the stereotypes put on women who are sexualized and she was sexualized at a young age so ppl had their mind set on her like that for a long time. I see her like Marylin in many ways. She had way more potential than ppl gave her credit for
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Sophienoire — 8 months ago(August 04, 2025 05:52 PM)
exactly, and Britney was still a kid when she became a publically known performer and still a teen when she pretty much rose to pop queen status with a song that sexualised teenage girls and ultimately her as the performer. sadly she never could outlive that image, but thank god she's still alive!
not everyone can be like Miley Cyrus who did a complete turn on her image or the Olsen twins who removed themselves entirely from the public once they realised that their mental health was suffering.
i think for stars at such a young age surviving that business it has a lot to do with the people surrounding them and looking out for them, the social safety net, and Britney's people ****ed it up. plain and simple.
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It’smonicah — 8 months ago(August 04, 2025 05:59 PM)
Yeah exactly. Supposedly when Britney was on conservatorship she was forced to perform still and make music even though she didn’t want to and they threatened make her lose custody of her kids if she didn’t. This makes me so angry if true. Like most moms in her position would have done the same thing for their kids. Amanda Bynes went through similar stuff but seems to be doing better and more stable now
Paris also is doing ok too despite what she has gone through. She ended up profiting off her dumb blonde image instead which was a very smart move on her part. I would have done the same thing if I was her
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Sophienoire — 8 months ago(August 04, 2025 06:12 PM)
lol Paris is amazing! i love her! i haven't been following her these past years but i'm glad she's doing okay. she's got a strong social safety net, i suppose, with her family having her back.
but, yeah she and Nicole Richie together were legends.
btw you're doing great on here yourself.
i know bc i know you better than everyone here who underestimates you big time.
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Sophienoire — 8 months ago(August 04, 2025 07:00 PM)
yes, idk what her dad's deal is but i think Miley's uncompromisingly independent personality is strong and capable enough to weather all that **** she surely had and has to deal with from her dad and in that business and seemingly without suffering too much mentally. when she did that image reinvention, i wasn't always a fan of her decisions, like that queer baiting stuff, but she did what she had to do to outgrow her Hannah Montana persona and is still popular, relevant and successful which i respect.
another one who has had a bad public image and took a lot of **** from media and men bc of that but turned out well after all is Pamela Anderson. i've seen her in her last film
The Last Showgirl
and she's amazing, as a serious actress, and basically playing herself. it was an award worthy performance which brought her much critical acclaim and i have infinite respect for her.
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sheetsadam1 — 8 months ago(August 04, 2025 07:13 PM)
My understanding is that he's actually jealous of her
Idk if he's known at all in Germany (kinda hope not for your sake), but over here he's considered something of a joke, a symbol of everything wrong with American music before grunge got popular and rescued it. He's tried tons of things to stay relevant and none of it has worked, except very briefly with the Lil Nas X thing. But yeah, his hometown is near mine. I used to play music in some of the same bars he played when he was starting out. Anyway, he still has property in the area and his former maintenance guy says he's a giant prick.
I have been meaning to watch
The Last Showgirl
. Actually started it before and wasn't in the mood. But I already knew she was super smart from interviews I'd seen over the years.
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