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    WarrenPeace — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 08:51 PM)

    I get it.
    You’re a typical coward who feels like he needs a gun when you probably really don’t.
    Just keep your doors and windows locked even when you are home and you’ll be fine.
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      Corwin — 10 months ago(June 03, 2025 12:00 AM)

      Curious how you think people in Canada and Australia manage that situation, with even less population density.

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        sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 03, 2025 02:12 AM)

        Great question! I do think that something similar to Canada's gun laws would ultimately be the ideal, but I don't think that the U.S. is ready for that at present and ultimately may never be.
        In many ways, the U.S. is unique in it's idolization of those who take arms against the forces who govern them, be it the Founding Fathers or the Confederate army (who are, unfortunately, still lionized by many, even far outside of the south). This has manifested itself many times throughout our history, extending from Shays' Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion of the 18th century through to more modern events like Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Bundy standoff. Such insurrectionists are often considered folk heroes by many on the right.
        Now, it goes without saying that these people are as mad as a hatter, but they are also heavily armed and ready to resist any attempt at gun confiscation. Hell, their militia groups have been preparing for just that scenario for decades.
        So given the current political realities, my view is that the worst thing the left in the U.S. could do is loudly proclaim that we are opposed to guns, don't own any ourselves and will not, under any circumstances, be putting up any resistance. Instead, I would support groups like the Pink Pistols (who train members of the LGBTQ+ community in firearms safety and capability) or the Socialist Rifle Association to help foster the perception - real or not - that left-wing gatherings are not an easy target for any psychopath with a gun.
        Lastly, the U.S. has an asinine electoral college system. While a majority of Americans do indeed support stricter gun laws, that isn't the case in swing states and, for rural voters in those states in particular, it's often their single biggest issue (anectdotally, I've talked to many people who "would be Democrats if it wasn't for guns"). I'm of the belief that the Democratic Party's persistence in talking about this issue is holding us back from implementing a ton of other great policies which would ultimately make Americans happier, healthier and perhaps even more prepared to have this conversation.
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          Corwin — 10 months ago(June 03, 2025 02:17 AM)

          Ultimately, I believe that the US firearms regime has nothing to do with population density (Canada, Australia, Greenland and other sparsely populated places put that theory to bed, sorry) and everything to do with political institutions and culture.
          And no I don't think that it can or will change.

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            sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 03, 2025 02:30 AM)

            I would agree with that. The talk of population density was to explain my own reasoning for buying a gun when I lived in a particularly rural area. (For the record, it's a single-shot .410 and I fire it maybe once every couple of years to make sure it's still in working order. This isn't a particularly important issue for me.) But, sure, I probably wouldn't have had those fears if the cultural and political issues didn't exist. Unfortunately they do and I felt it best to prepare for the worst.
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              Corwin — 10 months ago(June 03, 2025 02:43 AM)

              People in rural parts of Canada also have guns – usually for hunting though and for protection from bears, coyotes etc. The four-legged beasts as opposed to the two-legged ones.
              It's because most everyone is armed where you are. Vicious cycle, literally.

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                /.ㅤ — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 10:26 PM)

                Should we be allowed to have any weapon?
                My password is password.

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                  sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 10:31 PM)

                  In terms of firearms, I think so. Not other munitions.
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                    /.ㅤ — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 11:34 PM)

                    Rocket launchers?
                    My password is password.

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                      sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 11:42 PM)

                      Probably, but not the rockets themselves, so they'd be pretty useless.
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                        Phaenon — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 01:59 PM)

                        The T-settings there
                        Messing with my reception sometimes. I mean I want them to hear what is going on as best they can too, but can't they find another way to hear?
                        Ding Dong
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                          WarrenPeace — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 03:31 PM)

                          Good luck at getting anyone from one side or the other admitting any flaws from their team.
                          Those staunch supporters from one side or the other are so stubbornly blinded by their bias.
                          "Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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                            sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 03:42 PM)

                            Yes, it is frustrating to see (establishment) Democrats becoming more and more cult like. It's proof that Trump isn't an anomaly and that both sides are susceptible to these types of tactics.
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                              /.ㅤ — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 08:21 PM)

                              Stop talking to yourself, Warren.
                              My password is password.

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                                WarrenPeace — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 08:53 PM)

                                Fuck off, stupid asshole troll.
                                "Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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                                  AnthonySocksss — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 08:24 PM)

                                  Democrats don’t have an issue with gun rights. Gun control is enshrined in the second amendment
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                                    sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 08:30 PM)

                                    I'm not a fan of the Second Amendment. It ensures gun rights merely for "a well regulated militia," which it deems "necessary to the security of a free state." Whereas I favor individual gun rights as a measure of self-protection and, as a side effect, as a check against government tyranny.
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                                      Yermom_Is_God — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 09:24 PM)

                                      It ensures gun rights merely for "a well regulated militia," which it deems "necessary to the security of a free state."
                                      That's not true, that's a justification clause, the 2nd Amendment specifically says the right of the people, it doesn't the right of the militia, it says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
                                      "I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot

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                                        AnthonySocksss — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 09:37 PM)

                                        “Bear arms” in this case means the context of a militia, the 2A was never about individual ownership.
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                                          Yermom_Is_God — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 09:47 PM)

                                          That's 100% false. You don't know what you're talking about yet again.
                                          "I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot

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