I'm a registered independent, but typically vote for Democrats. However, I disagree with them very strongly on the issue
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sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 03, 2025 02:12 AM)
Great question! I do think that something similar to Canada's gun laws would ultimately be the ideal, but I don't think that the U.S. is ready for that at present and ultimately may never be.
In many ways, the U.S. is unique in it's idolization of those who take arms against the forces who govern them, be it the Founding Fathers or the Confederate army (who are, unfortunately, still lionized by many, even far outside of the south). This has manifested itself many times throughout our history, extending from Shays' Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion of the 18th century through to more modern events like Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Bundy standoff. Such insurrectionists are often considered folk heroes by many on the right.
Now, it goes without saying that these people are as mad as a hatter, but they are also heavily armed and ready to resist any attempt at gun confiscation. Hell, their militia groups have been preparing for just that scenario for decades.
So given the current political realities, my view is that the worst thing the left in the U.S. could do is loudly proclaim that we are opposed to guns, don't own any ourselves and will not, under any circumstances, be putting up any resistance. Instead, I would support groups like the Pink Pistols (who train members of the LGBTQ+ community in firearms safety and capability) or the Socialist Rifle Association to help foster the perception - real or not - that left-wing gatherings are not an easy target for any psychopath with a gun.
Lastly, the U.S. has an asinine electoral college system. While a majority of Americans do indeed support stricter gun laws, that isn't the case in swing states and, for rural voters in those states in particular, it's often their single biggest issue (anectdotally, I've talked to many people who "would be Democrats if it wasn't for guns"). I'm of the belief that the Democratic Party's persistence in talking about this issue is holding us back from implementing a ton of other great policies which would ultimately make Americans happier, healthier and perhaps even more prepared to have this conversation.
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Corwin — 10 months ago(June 03, 2025 02:17 AM)
Ultimately, I believe that the US firearms regime has nothing to do with population density (Canada, Australia, Greenland and other sparsely populated places put that theory to bed, sorry) and everything to do with political institutions and culture.
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sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 03, 2025 02:30 AM)
I would agree with that. The talk of population density was to explain my own reasoning for buying a gun when I lived in a particularly rural area. (For the record, it's a single-shot .410 and I fire it maybe once every couple of years to make sure it's still in working order. This isn't a particularly important issue for me.) But, sure, I probably wouldn't have had those fears if the cultural and political issues didn't exist. Unfortunately they do and I felt it best to prepare for the worst.
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Corwin — 10 months ago(June 03, 2025 02:43 AM)
People in rural parts of Canada also have guns – usually for hunting though and for protection from bears, coyotes etc. The four-legged beasts as opposed to the two-legged ones.
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WarrenPeace — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 03:31 PM)
Good luck at getting anyone from one side or the other admitting any flaws from their team.
Those staunch supporters from one side or the other are so stubbornly blinded by their bias.
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sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 03:42 PM)
Yes, it is frustrating to see (establishment) Democrats becoming more and more cult like. It's proof that Trump isn't an anomaly and that both sides are susceptible to these types of tactics.
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AnthonySocksss — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 08:24 PM)
Democrats don’t have an issue with gun rights. Gun control is enshrined in the second amendment
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sheetsadam1 — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 08:30 PM)
I'm not a fan of the Second Amendment. It ensures gun rights merely for "a well regulated militia," which it deems "necessary to the security of a free state." Whereas I favor individual gun rights as a measure of self-protection and, as a side effect, as a check against government tyranny.
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Yermom_Is_God — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 09:24 PM)
It ensures gun rights merely for "a well regulated militia," which it deems "necessary to the security of a free state."
That's not true, that's a justification clause, the 2nd Amendment specifically says the right of the people, it doesn't the right of the militia, it says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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AnthonySocksss — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 09:37 PM)
“Bear arms” in this case means the context of a militia, the 2A was never about individual ownership.
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AnthonySocksss — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 10:09 PM)
In the 18th century, the phrase bear arms meant in the context of military or militia duty to carry arms with formal service under command. To bear arms meant to serve as part of a military force.
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Yermom_Is_God — 10 months ago(June 02, 2025 10:52 PM)
Lol, I see you're getting your history lessons from Google AI, and you're splicing like 3 of them together to make your own made up definition. I respect the effort and silly strategy.
Bear arms just meant the right to carry firearms, and 2nd Amendment designates that right specifically to the people, it's very clear in how it's worded.
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