I read some posts that said, " Why did Michael do this, or that……."
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Halloween
russellp20012001 — 9 years ago(October 10, 2016 12:05 PM)
This to me is why this movie is so amazing and also my favorite horror movie of all time.
Loomis says something like " I watched him for fifteen years, sitting in a room, staring at a wall, not seeing the wall, looking past the wall - looking at this night, inhumanly patient, waiting for some secret, silent alarm to trigger him off."
That is the key to this whole movie.
Whatever evil that is driving Michael Myers has made him see the future.
I'm not saying that Michael is a psychic but everything has lead to this particular night.
Almost like he knows where to be and why.
The best example is when Laurie walks across the street to see Annie and Lynda. Notice she walks in the back by the kitchen. Michael then puts a rake to block the door. ( How did he know she would try to escape that way? ) Laurie walks into the room and there is Annie with the tombstone. Laurie then backs up and finds Lynda and Bob. ( This played out that Michael knew what would happen )
This is why this movie is so great. Only one thing bothers me everytime I watch this movie. Check out the door knob on the door when Tommy opens the door for Laurie. It's on the wrong side!!
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dave626 — 9 years ago(October 10, 2016 02:46 PM)
Even the commentary team in the latest Blu Ray mention the door knob goof. Jamie Lee Curtis, I think, Carpenter never noticed.
As for the rake on the door, it's a tricky question for me. Laurie hears a thump upstairs, presumably Myers, and proceeds to walk up the stairs. Now keep in mind this means he was upstairs the moment she entered the back door. So when did Michael have time to go outside, place the rake after she came in that way and get back upstairs to be seen in the other room?
But the front door was locked and bolted, which for a door like that, you have to do a lot to even open it. A friend has a similar door. So injured from stab wound and fall cracking a bone in her foot/leg, being chased by a killer, she didn't have time to fidget with the front door, which as said, was pretty secure.
So the only other way out in panic mode, which she was, was back the way she came. But how the rake got there bothers me about this movie, but it's still a classic.
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russellp20012001 — 9 years ago(October 10, 2016 02:57 PM)
Plus one more thing with the rake. If Michael placed the rake there, wouldn't that mean he had to re-enter the house from another door?
So ( May be far-fetched ) he puts the rake to secure the door. Walks around to the front. Very quiet like, he goes up the stairs and hides in that room. Lori did take her time in Annie's room. So I guess it is possible. -
BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 10, 2016 03:01 PM)
Its kind of far fetched but he could have came back in through the front door, locked it, and then made his way back up into the hallway. Laurie was in the room with the bodies she wouldn't have seen him sneaking back up stairs.
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(October 10, 2016 05:00 PM)
It is far fetched. That's why Rob Zombie doesn't like Halloween. I watched his remakes recently(even more awful than I remember), but he said that the stuff in Halloween happens so coincidentally, that it kinda ruins it. He's almost right.
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GorchBrother — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 01:10 AM)
Zombie is the kind of guy that puts a rape scene in the film which is totally coincidental. So he is not the guy to be listening to about Halloween.
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 07:32 AM)
the stuff in Halloween happens so coincidentally, that it kinda ruins it. He's almost right.
Halloween II. Boom box kid is walking down the street listening to his radio which is broadcasting that Laurie was taken to Haddonfield Memorial hospital. Myers just happens to be standing there as it happens. Myers walks about 90 feet and, boom, a sign giving directions to that very hospital. Can't be any more coincidential than that. Does that kinda ruin Halloween II for you?
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 06:20 PM)
So what? I know what you're talking about. I just gave an example of a coincidence that occured in II and asked you if it almosts ruins that movie for you as you say that the coincidences in the original nearly does.
You just chose to dodge the question per usual.
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 11:37 PM)
No. I just don't appreciate people bringing up things that aren't germane to the conversation at hand. Michael Myers doppelganger is doing the same thing on the Cheers board. They guy asks me to provide lists where Cheers ranked higher than Frasier for greatest shows of all time. I provided 2 and someone else provided 2 more. And stupid old Michael Myers comes out of nowhere per usual for him, and mentions that Seinfeld and Friends ranks higher on the lists than Cheers does, so dI you still like the lists type thing. And I simply told him, what I'm telling you. That we're not talking about those shows, we're talking about these shows. Just like we're not talking about the coincidences in Halloween II, we're talking about coincidences in the original that Zombie pointed out.
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simest — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 01:13 AM)
The point is still valid whether it relates to this film or any.
We could always start a seperate thread on HALLOWEEN II coincidences so that it is germane to the subject if that might suit you better but it will still pose the same question.
If you feel Zombie is almost right about HALLOWEEN that such coincidences "kinda ruin it", do you feel that comparable coincidences in HALLOWEEN II "kinda ruin" that movie also?
I suspect Barney is questioning if you have a self-conflicting attitude in your outlook to both films.
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 05:34 AM)
Give me a break. Stop with the whole, "we're talking about this not that" nonsense. You said that the coincidences in the original almost ruin it for you. All I'm asking is if the coincidences in the sequel do the same. Rather than answer the question, you chose to get all defensive about it. I'm not attacking II. Just asking a question. But your whole "taking the fifth" and refusing to answer the question on the grounds that we're not talking about II pretty much answers it for you.
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NorthernLad — 9 years ago(October 16, 2016 04:48 AM)
Halloween II. Boom box kid is walking down the street listening to his radio which is broadcasting that Laurie was taken to Haddonfield Memorial hospital. Myers just happens to be standing there as it happens. Myers walks about 90 feet and, boom, a sign giving directions to that very hospital. Can't be any more coincidential than that. Does that kinda ruin Halloween II for you?
Wow! That movie is entertainingbut boy does it have some HUGE problems with it. lol
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dave626 — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 03:11 AM)
Yes, but not that long and how else would he get in? Window? The front door was bolted shut. Laurie couldn't get in when she rang the bell, or didn't, but then Michael wouldn't have had time to bolt it creep upstairs and get in the other room. Laurie's Annie reveal took less than 2 minutes.
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GorchBrother — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 05:02 AM)
This really takes the biscuit.
"The front door was bolted shut."
Yeah. By Michael. He had not trouble opening the door to take Annie's Body in and the door wasn't bolted when Lynda and Bob arrive. So Michael has clearly acquired the means to bolt and unbolt the door. e.g. The keys that Annie must have had.
but then Michael wouldn't have had time to bolt it creep upstairs and get in the other room. Laurie's Annie reveal took less than 2 minutes.
My office building is about three times size in its footprint to the Wallace house. I could easily walk around the entire building at least four times in five minutes.
Michael could easily have raked the kitchen door, gone round the front and followed Laurie upstairs. It would have taken half a minute for him to get in position.
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