Did Johnny deserve what Max does to him?
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shortbread226 — 15 years ago(May 13, 2010 07:15 PM)
I agree with Doc Gibbon.
Is the OP saying if Johnny had been there to kill Jessie Max would have been justified? He did leave a calling card of Jessie AND Goose when going on his rampage. Plus he doesn't actually know who did what does he? He just knows the gang did it. How would he know Johnny wasn't there.
The whole point annoys me. Protaganists aren't there to adhere to a perfect moral code, they are there to be characters and real human beings. It is not a contradiction for Max to behave not completely justified in his revenge. He is portraying a real person that has lost everything in his life. Iy is realistic that he is not completely reasoned in his every action
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dcarlos1 — 15 years ago(June 19, 2010 05:46 PM)
i believe the whole point of the movie is about a man losing everything and becoming just as bad as the people he used to arrest. road warrior is about a man finding something worth living for and becoming the good guy again.
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boehm2home — 15 years ago(July 06, 2010 02:20 PM)
As for Johnny: The whole gang laughed after him. He was accepted into the gang just because he "killed" The Goose. What he didn't - The Toecutter did. Later in the movie ass* like Mudguts and Starbuck did accept him, but -in no way- he was a real member of that gang. Even if he got the TC tatoo on the left side of his neck.
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estcst-3 — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 08:56 AM)
I agree with the general notion of Max losing it in MM and finding some form of redemption in MM2/RW but I have to disagree about being "just as bad" as Toecutter's crew in the first film He gave Johnny a real chance to live, that's more than the Goose ever got.
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grrrdevin — 12 years ago(September 28, 2013 02:00 AM)
Of course! Anyone who doesn't subscribe to vigilante justice surely must be a liberal and not just, you know, civilized.
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lexyladyjax — 10 years ago(July 28, 2015 01:37 PM)
The OP must be a real Liberal.
He BURNED MAX'S BEST FRIEND TO DEATH! (even though it could be argued that he dropped it after Toecutter throttled him)
"You scum-sucking trash, THROOOOOOOOW IIIIIIIIT!" LOL
Also, Max was at this point on a mission to execute all of the "skags".
Liberal? What does being a Liberal have to with it? None of the dead had to make a choice whether to self-mutilate or die. If you can't see the difference you lack insight.
There seemed to be something off about him psychologically. Nevertheless, Johnny shared responsibility for the deaths of Goose, Jessie and Sprog. In most value systems the punishment for those crimes is severe.
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brushfyr — 14 years ago(July 01, 2011 10:13 AM)
See, this is why it's hard to tell who's dumb and who's a troll. I've read things similar to this in other boards.
Ok he raped a girl and burned Goose TO DEATH but he shouldn't die over that.
In a way, that's why it's Mad Max, he's had enough of scum like that and a legal system that can't control them. The police couldn't prevent the NightRider from escaping, couldn't prevent the gang from stealing and attacking the citizens of that small town so Johnny get's let loose. The criminal system in the movie wasn't able to deal with such things. Max had had enough, and that's why he killed the gang. Was he justified in killing Johnny? Sure, why not, Johnny was evil and the courts couldn't stop him. Max could. Why don't you think rape and murder are reasons for being killed yourself? Was Johnny justified in rape or killing Goose by burning him?