The Mickey Mouse joke says a lot
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(May 07, 2016 05:40 PM)
It basically sets the tone for the entire film and it is perfect representation of what Last Crusade really is: A kiddie campfest (much like Batman and Robin).
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Chris12955 — 9 years ago(May 13, 2016 04:46 PM)
I don't know, they have always been goofy and illogical, but it got done to the nth degree with The Crystal Skull. It seemed like everything weird they did but almost got away with in the previous entries went too far in that film. I know they were continuing to go for period as far as what was
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with science fiction, fantasy, and societal hysteria, but it just didn't feel right with how they did it. It wasn't BAD, but it wasn't great either. I am going to reevaluate it this weekend as we are watching that one next. So far, for me the high point was The Temple of Doom with Raiders of the Lost Arc as number 2. -
GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 9 years ago(May 16, 2016 08:36 PM)
It basically sets the tone for the entire film and it is perfect representation of what Last Crusade really is: A kiddie campfest (much like Batman and Robin).
Oh please. This movie does have it's share of dark scenes. Like the skeletons lying around in the crypt, the guy's head getting chopped off (you wouldn't see that in Batman and Robin), and Indy's father getting shot. Frankly TC, you strike me as one of those Nolan Batman fans who thinks every movie needs to be the same tone as TDK.
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The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(May 28, 2016 07:18 PM)
The movie didn't have any dark scenes, it was all completely campy and comical and was a major departure from the dark, gritty tone set by the first two films.
Batman and Robin had people getting frozen to death, far darker than anything out of Last Crusade. It also didn't have Mickey Mouse jokes.
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TheButlerDidItYes — 9 years ago(July 07, 2016 09:14 PM)
Donovan's hellish supernatural death scene is far darker than anything in Batman and Robin. This movie is far darker than Batman and Robin. It's not even close. And as another poster pointed out we see a man's head get chopped off in this movie. That didn't even happen in Batman Returns.
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herschie — 9 years ago(May 18, 2016 12:02 PM)
If you look at the goofs, he actually said Jesse Owens during filming, which is a reference that an audience in the set time period would get. But it was felt that the 1989 audience wouldn't get the reference, so it was dubbed over later to say "Mickey Mouse".
I know who Jesse Owens is now, but I certainly didn't when I was a kid, so maybe this was wise. Interestingly, I went to Disney World in the summer of 1989. So I was very familiar with Mickey Mouse. -
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TheButlerDidItYes — 9 years ago(July 07, 2016 09:30 PM)
I don't understand what's so terrible about the Mickey Mouse joke in the movie. The point the butler was trying to make was that he couldn't believe that Indy was a Scottish lord. It was as absurd as the butler claiming to be Mickey Mouse would be. I don't see the problem.
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The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(July 08, 2016 07:53 AM)
The Mickey Mouse joke was a huge problem because it basically summarized the tone of this film and that it was a campy kiddie adventure. Just look at the first two movies, they were mature, dark and gritty you'd never imagine that anyone would insert Mickey Mouse humor in this franchise. It's blatantly obvious why Spielberg made the movie the way he did, there were too many complaints from parents that Temple was too scary for kids so he pussed out and made a movie for toddlers and pre-schoolers.
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Ma_MaMia — 9 years ago(July 08, 2016 10:41 AM)
Just look at the first two movies, they were mature, dark and gritty
Willie on the elephant the wrong way around whining, Indy running around with hot feet shouting "water!", Short Round beating up the thuggess, mallet on the head, Willie and Short Round acting out Indy's punches, supposedly weak child slaves overcoming their captors
Real mature, dark and gritty stuff right there