From the very beginning, it's made clear that the one thing Gil wants is to be the opposite of his father. Karen asks hi
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Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(April 07, 2013 04:11 PM)
I asked you a question. Why you are refusing to answer is beyond me.
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Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(April 08, 2013 12:58 PM)
I asked you to clarify/elaborate on one of your statements. You refused. Thanks for the stimulating conversation.
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Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(April 09, 2013 11:46 AM)
Men more or less have to agree with whatever the woman wants because if we don't we look like jerks. What else do you need me to tell you?
You couldn't have just said this a few posts back? Seriously?
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Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(April 20, 2013 08:18 PM)
You're actually offended I asked you for a little depth behind your statement. Uptight much? Prick.
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Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(April 21, 2013 11:56 AM)
Troubled, lol. I appreciate the concern. You're practically a saint.
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EightiesKid — 13 years ago(December 23, 2012 08:42 PM)
I don't think the movie itself was being pro-abortion at all since she has the baby in the end, just the opposite. They simply reflected how lots of couples feel in tough situations. Gil was already under lots of pressure, trying to be the best dad he could, when all 3 of their kids needed extra attention (especially Kevin), and the added stress of him quitting his job showed that it wasn't a good time for Karen to tell him she was pregnant.
I agree with previous posters, based on how he reacted ("lets have a dozen and pretend they're donuts!") you could tell he wanted her to have the abortion at the time being, but didn't want to actually say it and sound uncaring.
That's exactly what I love about this movie (and ones like it). Even though it's entertaining and has some funny parts, it really is more serious, and it makes you think by showing both sides of the issue.
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Gus-69 — 12 years ago(October 15, 2013 04:38 AM)
The film has such a pro-abortion agenda that in the ending about three or four babies are born, including the one whose termination was being discussed by the character.
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fiatlux-1 — 11 years ago(November 17, 2014 02:25 PM)
I thought of it as Gil being caught off-guard, and not knowing HOW to react.
He had just lost his job, albeit he quit, but still. He'd lost a partnership he'd worked hard for, come home to find his wife is unplanned-pregnant.
He was a worry-wart to boot, and still reeling too from the problems with his son Kevin, daughter Taylor, and even the toddler Justin.
He didn't want to offend his wife either, he didn't know what to say.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
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fiatlux-1 — 11 years ago(November 17, 2014 02:27 PM)
And perhaps, part of him did want an abortion. I could understand his feeling this, even for just a brief time.
If the situation was reversed, and the wife wanted the abortion, would people be just as offended?
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.