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    The-Last-Prydonian — 9 years ago(May 18, 2016 09:57 PM)

    I don't recall any significant outcry about any of those films, apart from Braveheart's fairytale historical inaccuracy and The Phantome Menace's testing the patience and nerve of people who had grown up with the original trilogy.
    Well there was although I find it difficult to believe you couldn't have heard about them. You'd have to have been living in a cave not to. Sections of the English media accused the film of harbouring Anglophobia. The Economist called it "xenophobic" and John Sutherland writing in The Guardian stated that "Braveheart gave full rein to a toxic Anglophobia". In The Times, MacArthur said "the political effects are truly pernicious. Its a xenophobic film." Ian Burrell of The Independent has noted, "The Braveheart phenomenon, a Hollywood-inspired rise in Scottish nationalism, has been linked to a rise in anti-English prejudice". Also this was another film which has accusations of homophobia directed at it for it's depiction Prince Edward as being a effeminate homosexual.
    Similar criticism was levelled at
    The Patriot
    . another film that funnily enough starred Mel Gibson. Funnily enough,
    Braveheart
    itself face sharped criticism for the way it portrayed
    Are both "Braveheart" and "The Patriot" anti-English (yes) or is it just "Braveheart" (no)?
    Star Wars: Episode 1: The Phantom
    was heavily for having characters that were said to be racist caricatures. The villainous members of the Trade Federation were portrayed like they were Japanese with Jar Jar Binks a Jamaican Rastafarian.
    Seeing racism in Jar Jar is seeing phantom menace
    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-06-05/news/9906050180_1_jar-jar-binks-phantom

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      laurieann74 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 10:21 PM)

      Here we go once again. Bringing up political correctness. Give it a rest, please.

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        laslopaniflex — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 12:45 AM)

        Also when shortly after the film came out Jeffrey Dahmer, an openly gay cannibal serial killer was caught slightly defeating the argument that gay people should not be portrayed as evil. Like Dennis Nielson before him.
        Dahmer was stabbed in prison by inmates, and apparently the guards weren't exactly looking out for his protection. It is worth discussing that would a straight cannibal killer have that much hatred, or would they be more feared/respected by inmates/Florida prison guards??
        "What are you, some kind of doomsday machine, boy?"

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          Murphed87 — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 11:51 AM)

          I can recall that there was also backlash against Jodie Foster for appearing in a film that was considered homophobic. She wasn't officially out at the time despite people already knowing, so the LGBT felt like it was wrong for her to appear in the film.

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            138 — 3 years ago(August 16, 2022 05:29 AM)

            It does rely on some bad tropes, but it does at least address that Bill is not actually trans. In hindsight, this is a bit truscum, but fot the time, I can't really blame them for this ignorance.
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              Mrsfenshi_Star — 3 years ago(August 16, 2022 06:46 AM)

              Want Jeffrey Dahmer homosexual?

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                Woodyanders — 3 years ago(August 16, 2022 11:43 AM)

                Yes, Dahmer was a gay man.
                You've seen Guy Standeven in something because the man was in everything.

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                  ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(December 05, 2022 12:31 PM)

                  Yes he was and he wasn't a cross dresser.
                  Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                    LorqVonRay1999 — 3 years ago(August 16, 2022 02:36 PM)

                    The LGBTQ is always whining about something.

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                      kuatorises — 3 years ago(November 01, 2022 06:43 PM)

                      It's not homophobic or tranasphobic to have an antagonist that's gay or trans. End of story.

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                        ☝ — 3 years ago(December 01, 2022 07:42 AM)

                        Agreed. I think it was established that Gumb had tried several times and was refused surgery, he was also attempting to make a literal woman suit which makes him something other than trans.

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                          kuatorises — 3 years ago(December 01, 2022 01:15 PM)

                          Dude could have been a literal trans person and the movie still wouldn't have been transphobic.

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                            AnthonySocksss — 3 years ago(December 01, 2022 05:30 AM)

                            People forget that James Gumb wasn’t actually transsexual or gay, he was a disturbed man who took whatever identity he thought would please him.
                            Melton1 Wanted for Pedophilia:
                            https://i.ibb.co/6cnPmJVr/IMG-0830.jpg
                            https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Zjxk307CND0

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                              WarrenPeace — 3 years ago(December 01, 2022 08:15 AM)

                              I don't give a **** about any of this ****.
                              That is a battle and a concern for others.
                              Not for me.
                              If it makes trans and gays feel or look bad, whatever.
                              "Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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                                ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(December 05, 2022 12:37 PM)

                                The complaints were from a whinging minority and were unfounded in the context of the entire film.
                                There was no representation of Buffalo Bill being a homosexual man, only that he was transexual and his pathology was a thousand times worse as Lecter expressed. He may have been gay, but this wasn't mentioned in the film, (haven't read the book), and since Trans is not an outright sexuality and has nothing to do with homosexual men who revel in their maleness and the male form of others, homophobia is far removed from these distorted claims.
                                As for transphobia, serial killers come in all forms and that is just the representation here in a fictional story. And since Trans is a mental illness, this story just took it to the extreme side of the disorder spectrum.
                                Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                  BlablaBlackSheep — 3 years ago(March 04, 2023 04:52 AM)

                                  It was explained in the movie that Buffalo Bill wasn’t transgender

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                                    ToastedCheese — 4 months ago(December 01, 2025 01:33 AM)

                                    He may have been a Gynophiliac as Ed Gein was. A straight male who had absolute lust and desire for females, he became psychotic.
                                    Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                      Melton1 — 4 months ago(November 20, 2025 06:39 AM)

                                      The film bent over backwards to say that Buffalo Bill wasn’t transgender but, of course, that didn’t stop the LGBTQ cult from screeching about it, so much so that Jonathan Demme made Philadelphia as an ‘apology’.
                                      Was he forgiven? Nope. They doubled down and criticised Philadelphia for not showing enough gay sex.
                                      That’s why you must never submit to these Leftist ‘queer’ activists. Never obey, never apologise.
                                      And now we have a correlation between transsexuals and violence, so our instinctive caution around these weirdos seems justified, and all of their complaints about negative portrayals sound like predators pissed off that they’ve been unmasked.

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                                        faf33a4ca828f9d28fa360c04805f6f2 — 4 months ago(November 22, 2025 04:49 AM)

                                        And now we have a correlation between maga and violence,
                                        Indeed, we do.

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                                          Melton1 — 4 months ago(November 24, 2025 03:21 PM)

                                          You inventing quotes again there ******?

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