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movieliker1 — 10 years ago(September 25, 2015 02:50 AM)
Yeah, I read through your posts and your attempted reasoning to support your positions and they really don't make any sense.
I respect you and your respect for others and your politeness. But I can't respect your opinion because it is too nonsensical. -
harveythepooka — 10 years ago(September 27, 2015 03:35 PM)
The problem is you are offended by the word stupid. It's not a positive word, but it's accurate. Just like if you smoke and die of lung cancer when you knew it could happen you're stupid. Or if you know you need new tires and get into an accident: stupid.
Let me rephrase though, it's not about
being
stupid, it's about doing a stupid thing or making a stupid decision. Chris did a stupid thing. He knew it, we all know it, there's no point in really talking about it because any life choice you make that leads to your death is by default a stupid choice. He didn't go out there to die, so the fact he did die means he failed at his goal. -
ljshorts — 10 years ago(September 27, 2015 06:52 PM)
No, what you're doing is
assuming
that I'm offended by the word stupid. When really, I'm saddened that people think it is accurate to call him stupid, when he is clearly not. Because it shows where people are at, how little they know, and how brainwashed they've become. -
movieliker1 — 10 years ago(September 25, 2015 03:06 AM)
Ok, we get it troll. Your argument is very basic, and a go-to for most unenlightened people. However you are entitled to your opinion, just don't spam the thread like a whiny baby.
I am not sure if you are talking to me because I never got a notifying email. But the way these posts line up, it looks like you are. If you are, just because someone's opinion doesn't agree with yours, doesn't mean they are a troll. I don't think me stating my opinion makes me a whiny baby. Then, if you weren't talking to me, I apologize. -
ljshorts — 10 years ago(September 25, 2015 05:00 AM)
This was the only post I replied to of yours. I stated that you are a troll because it logically doesn't make sense for someone to post over and over in different places how stupid you think he is. It is a form of spamming and you can be reported for that.
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scottt-44876 — 10 years ago(October 11, 2015 05:53 PM)
Albert, You have no clue what you are talking about. The movie had a lot of inaccurate details. Chris did not poison himself. He was injured and that kept him from being able to walk out. Someday you could trip and break your next. People die every day from trips and falls at home. Chris like many other people loved nature and he was very experienced and knew what he was doing. I wish people would stop all the hate speech. Especially since they talk with complete ignorance. Taking a Hollywood movie as 100% fact is a bad idea. Hating on a real person with faulty information is wrong.
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ljshorts — 10 years ago(October 12, 2015 08:08 PM)
You're right the movie wasn't 100% accurate. I personally enjoyed Penn's artistic additions to the film but that's just me. You're also right about the hate speech being a result of ignorance. That sums it up nicely in a simple way.
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arkayenether — 10 years ago(January 27, 2016 02:32 PM)
Wow this is the third time today I've run into you. I've come to the conclusion (especially after reading this post) that you're one of those types that think they are far deeper and considerably more intelligent than they actually are.
By the way, "Find something worth dying for" is quite possibly the single stupidest sounding attempt at being inspiring I've ever seen, heard, or read. Get laid -
AtheistRevolution — 10 years ago(January 28, 2016 08:38 AM)
Is that why he wrote an SOS sign begging for help?Why would the moron do if he didn't find a old bus? He didn't even have the most basic survival skills. He should have at least joined boy scouts as a kid. If you just drop an animal that was raised in captivity in the wild,they will die. If all other animals need training on how to survive in the wild then humans need that also. If he really wanted to do this he could have traveled with a survivalist or take a few basic survival classes. This idiot starved in Alaska for beep
He probably would have died camping in his backyard. I've been to Amazon,Siberia,etc. This kid would never survive in any of these places.In winter when there is no food you can actually survive on bark,leaves and dig up insects buried in the ground.You can grind up bark,mix it with water and make a gruel which would have prevented starvation.Of course there were plenty of things he could have ate before even doing that.But he was too stupid to even know that.He didn't even know how to prepare a animal he killed. Wasted meat. He could have survived the entire winter on that moose.
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palisade-1 — 10 years ago(January 28, 2016 09:36 AM)
Why would the moron do if he didn't find a old bus? He didn't even have the most basic survival skills. He should have at least joined boy scouts as a kid.
If he had not found the bus, he would probably have survived - because he would have kept moving, having only a tent and sleeping bag, and no comfortable shelter. The bus was too easy and cozy, so he hunkered down in it much longer than he should have done.
Ironically, he did have lots of solo camping experience and belonged to a Boy Scout type group (forget the name but would recognize it) for a number of years. He did solo camping in the Appalachians, in the desert in the southwest, in various parts of the USA, but not in Alaska or a subarctic region with similar challenges. He had no plans to spend the winter, and had he kept moving camp he would likely have been able to leave when he wished to do so (early July). His "magic bus" was unfortunately "bad" magic as it seduced him into staying too long.
The movie does present him as a naive fool, but in real life he had much more wilderness experience than what is shown. -
ljshorts — 10 years ago(January 28, 2016 10:47 PM)
It should have been blatantly clear from the movie, but Chris' whole philosophy was to throw himself into the real world, and learn all of the survival skills on his own. Ever heard of the expression "Trial by fire"?
He wrote an SOS sign, because he backed himself into a corner that he couldn't get out of, and needed help And no he's not an idiot for making
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JayHysterio — 10 years ago(January 28, 2016 11:05 AM)
He may not have been stupid, but I think he was misguided. Self realization doesn't have to come from taking on dangerous quests, I think it comes from gradually experiencing life and learning from it. There are no quick, simple solutions. I liken him to Timothy Treadwell, who sought to excommunicate himself from people by living with grizzly bears, only to be eaten by one.
The issue I have with people like McCandless and Treadwell is they have avoided responsibility of life by "checking out" and thus take no responsibility and don't think about how their actions affect others. In McCandless' case, he left his family to agonize over his demise, in Treadwell's case it was even worse, his girlfriend was killed with him and the rescue team was put in harm's way by the same bear that killed him.
You may consider him noble, but his actions were irresponsible. This wasn't a hike like Cheryl Strayed took, where she had planned stops to resupply, yet she apparently came to some kind of self realization without killing herself or others. Even in death, CM has inadvertently caused the deaths of others who trekked to the area as a pilgrimage and died in accidents. (Documented on this site).
Unnecessary, imo.