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Even if he is 17, which many of those things point to - he's not going to adult prison. That's only for 18 and above. He

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    danavenell — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 01:12 PM)

    Again, from your own link - do you even read them?
    in the USA the worlds biggest consumer of porn rape figures have consistently fallen since 1990, from
    41.2 cases per 100,000
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    25 per 100,000 in 2013
    , when they fell 10.6 per cent on the previous year.
    Internet porn has become massively more widespread since 1990. Women are more likely to report rape than ever. yet rape figures have consistently fallen in quite dramatic numbers (see above) since 1990. The facts are not on your side of the argument, they are on mine.
    You don't like porn. So don't watch it.

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      laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 01:21 AM)

      This isn't just about rape numpty this is about the psychological damage rape does to young minds. That doesn't just mean violence. Though, Statistically one in 5 women will be attacked in some way.And that's good is it? So in the UK alone that's 85,000 women and 12,000 men (reported)
      I won't watch porn, neither would I allow a child to watch it..8 year olds watching sites like ghetto gaggers and facial abuse.yeah, great parenting.
      It's abhorrent and in time I hope access to it will become far more difficult than it is now.
      Quite frankly it's no better than prostitution and thinking it's perfectly acceptable for a child to watch it is disgusting.

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        danavenell — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 04:13 AM)

        Please show some evidence that the rise in porn availability correlates with a rise in women being attacked.

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          laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 07:35 AM)

          When did I ever say this to begon with? YOU started this possibly because you read my first post wrong, not saying I don't believe it isn't a major factor for sexual assault though.I said it damages young people's minds and had proof for this.
          It is true that college campus attacks have risen, which kinda correlates with the age of the perpetrators and their victims.
          It isn't good for teens to be watching porn. It constructs a fantasy in their heads that'll never come true, desensitises the viewer so they want something more graphic to satisfy the urges. Sexual performance is worsened. NOT to mention the effects on the actual performers.
          Why go on about one thing when it's a far bigger picture

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            danavenell — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 10:24 AM)

            It isn't good for teens to be watching porn. It constructs a fantasy in their heads that'll never come true, desensitises the viewer so they want something more graphic to satisfy the urges. Sexual performance is worsened
            EVIDENCE PLEASE.

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              laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 10:41 AM)

              Read the posts I have put up or look it up yourself. It's not hard there's new reports constantly in the press in it.
              Watch the bbc3 documentary on it with typer drew honey, or the documentary by Stacey Dooley. Read the psychiatric report (which you can download) on it.
              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3196809/It-induces-addiction-makes-men-hopeless-bed-discover-porn-affect-BRAIN.html
              https://www.google.co.uk/amp/amp.livescience.com/52469-how-porn-affects-brains.html?client=ms-android-hms-vf-gb
              http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/14/watching-pornography-damages-mens-brains/
              http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5450478
              This isn't even including the dangers the actual performers are in, or why they are doing it in the 1st place. Watching a documentary like hot girls wanted or Louis Theroux's weird weekends gives an insight into how messed up these people become psychologically and physically.
              You seem extremely invested in pornography which leads me to believe you like it. You're better invested in finding yourself a partner than wasting your time on porn.

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                danavenell — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 11:01 AM)

                I have a partner thanks. We both enjoy porn. I have two exes who do porn. Both are very happy in the profession, they are natural exhibitionists. Those who find working in porn problematic should leave and find a different profession.
                The Daily Mail is scare-mongering junk and cannot be trusted for any scientific objectivity. And Stacey Dooley is a moron (although one of my exes who do porn, the welsh wheelchair one, was on one of her shows).
                From your Telegraph link
                For the study, Dr Kuhn and her colleague Jurgen Gallinat from Charite University, also in Berlin, recruited 64 healthy men between the ages of 21 and 45 years and asked them questions about their porn-watching habits.
                They also took images of the mens brains to measure volume and to see how their brains reacted to pornographic pictures.
                They found noticeable differences in the men who abstained compared with those who regularly accessed sexual videos or images.
                However other researchers claimed that pornography in moderation was probably not damaging.
                Everything is going to be bad in excess and its probably not terrible in moderation, Dr Gregory Tau of the Columbia University
                From your LiveScience link
                Problem or not?
                Is pornography use an unhealthy addiction that ruins men for relationships, or a healthy sexual outlet that both men and women enjoy? How people answer may affect whether they are harmed by porn. A study in the September issue of the journal Psychology of Addictive Behavior found that it was the perception of being "addicted to porn," rather than the intensity of porn use per se, that was tied with psychological distress.
                And contrary to the notion that pornography fuels misogyny, men who viewed porn tended to hold more egalitarian views about women than did non-porn-using men. Frequent porn users view powerful women, working women and women who have had abortions more favorably than do other men, a study published in August in the Journal of Sex Research found.
                The HuffPo article is about children watching porn. I do not believe children should be watching porn.
                Now I have given you several experts who say that porn is not harmful and has not led to a rise in rapes, teenage pregnancies, and a whole host of other problems, and in fact the rise in porn-watching has seen such behaviour fall dramatically - and you have chosen to ignore it all. You have a faith-based belief that porn is bad, and you can't argue with someone who ignores evidence when it contradicts their faith-based belief.
                I'll leave you to your certainties.

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                  laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 12:00 PM)

                  Now I understand. You are totally biased, you are taking little excepts and using them for your own argument yet not looking at the whole article. I hope you can live with yourself and the knowledge you were in relationships with prostitutes.
                  P.s get tested as stds are rife in pornography 😉 😉
                  If Stacey Dooley is a moron. what are you?
                  http://www.covenanteyes.com/2008/10/28/ex-porn-star-tells-the-truth-about-the-porn-industry/

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                      Movie_Guy79 — 9 years ago(October 22, 2016 04:58 PM)

                      What bothered me the most was that some some random "trolls" were the ones meeting out "justice". Thats why we have courts.
                      As for sympathy, I felt more sympathetic to the guy who played Bron from GOT - all he did was cheat on his spouse. Sure, that isn't an admirable trait but there is a reason that adultery is not punishable by death (at least in Western countries).

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                        PeterMarkoff — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 02:19 PM)

                        i still don't get why he should lose his children because of cheating, yes he will see them less after divorce, but not really losing them or did i miss something why he agreed with this blackmail and rather participated in robbery?

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                          xrikou — 9 years ago(October 22, 2016 05:45 PM)

                          How are you not supposed to feel sorry for the characters? For being so terminally 'judged' by hacker vigilantes? This is what we have laws and courts for. Kenny isn't given a chance to 'fix' his life. He'll be charged with robbery and murder, on top of whatever charges he'll get for watching child porn. He was judged a rotten apple from the hacker/s and just got his life ruined forever.
                          Perhaps it was the show's intention to make us understand that demonizing anyone and creating in our minds the concept of the two-dimensional evil, sex offender is wrong. I know that the severity of the crime is a red line for a lot of people but this idea is what this episode wants to challenge. Just like the White Bear episode. Is any person worthy of such an intense punishment, one that legal systems today do not give? Did everyone really just sigh in relief at the end saying 'oooooh, thank God, he's just a sick pervert, yeah he got what he deserved'? I don't think so.
                          And again, just like in 'White Bear' and based on the fact that the hackers targeted the married man for a severely lighter 'transgression' (adultery), I think they're doing it for the sake of trolling. For sick pleasure. Does the viewer really identify with that?

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                            lone-foxx — 9 years ago(October 22, 2016 11:09 PM)

                            Those laws and courts are there to service to rich and oppress the poor. How do they serve me? I have many examples, when I was five a man attempted to kill me by suffocation, this was after I saw him kick his pregnant girlfriend down the stairs to kill his unborn child. He tried the same thing with my mother and I got involved, he tried to kill me with a pillow over my facekeep in mind we paid to stay there at this run down old mansion in Santa Barbara. The police refused to do anything, they said, and I quote, "we were just a bunch of junkies". I was five, but I was poor, so thats how much I mattered. Thats how much that baby mattered, thats how much my unborn sister matter, my mother, that poor woman who lost her babyshe was really kind to me, gave me my first action figure. Your laws, your justice, your courts, its all BS.
                            I saw a person shoot another person twice, so I told my mom and we reported it. The cops refused to look where I said it happened and harassed me (then about seven years old) telling me not to lie to police and make up stories.
                            Later in Jr High some G13 (Mexican gang) started messing with my friends at school, every week there was a gun or bomb threat. Teachers hid, hell one day our sub spent most of class under a desk hiding from gunshotsso they attacked my friend and I got involved just by pointing out what had happened, a huge ordeal. They tracked me down to my house and set my friend on fire on the bus, I saw him burning alive. Cops didn't give a damn. No-one ever got in any trouble.
                            That was all in California, where I also had a cop plant drugs on me on the freeway, then take us on a high speed chaseour car was broken down, we'd done nothing wrong. Another time my car was vandalized, I reported it, nothing. I went to fix my car, in the parking lot of Wal-Mart my rear-view mirror fell off in my hand, so I was headed to the bank to get money to go across the street to get a new mirror. A cop car shows up and follows me for a few miles, follows me into the bank parking lot and then turns on the lights. Tells me not to resist and that I need to calm down. Sez my shaking is proof that I am high on drugs, I cannot help shaking I explain, I have a disability caused by spinal meningitis. He sez I am lying and that the baseball bat in my backseat is a weapon and why do I have it? He claims that for these reasons he should arrest me, so I'm lucky he's only giving me a ticket, for my car, that was vandalized.
                            So I go in to pay the traffic ticket he gave me, I ask the woman at the front desk which courtroom I should go into and she tells me. The bailiff won't let me in, sez I'm late (was right there at the time they specified, I even double checked so as not to be late) and that I'm causing a problem for court proceedings, she sez she will not let me inI'm like, "but I will get into trouble for not showing up", to which she responds, "Thats right, you'll get a bench warrant", at which point I'm like screw it, "Fine, I'm leaving, if I cannot go in whats the point, this is not fair, or legal, and this is why I hate America". I was arrested on the spot. I was taken down to the station, my clothes were stripped, and I was beaten, my money was gone from my wallet when I was finally released. They mocked my last name, its Armenianand my nose (its kind of Eastern-European looking), and the whole time they were beating me they were telling me to respect woman, officers, and the law you love so much. Now apparently the receptionist described me as a tall, dark, and intimidating male who accosted her by saying, "Hey, you bi-atch, where is the motherf-ing judge" or some such nonsense. I have no problem with cursing but I am not stupid, thats not how you talk to anyone, especially not when you need their help.
                            Quotas, not people; numbers & money.
                            I was fired from my job when they heard about it, they said my shaking was an obvious sign I was on drugs, just as the cops had saidI was fired for being disabled. I tried to fight it. But I saw America for what it really is; the rich win every time. No lawyer would take my casewhy? I said I was innocent, they said I was guiltyI've always tried to be a good and moral person, sure I don't agree with many of the laws but I respect my fellow humans and animals. It didn't matter, nothing I did mattered, they took everything. I would have done better in life if I had known just how stacked reality is against the small guy. What have these laws done for me? They oppress me, they beat me, they ignore me when I need help, and they exploit everything I have, what little I did have.
                            At the same time my landlord was being a slumlord, the roof fell in on another friend's head, I pointed this out and nothing was done, this was during Winter. I sat there watching all my money go up into the air; heating the outside world. So I called around to find out my legal options as a tenant, then I sent him a letter he had to sign for stating that I would not pay any further rent unti

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                              Orlando_Gardner — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 07:50 AM)

                              That's the whole point of the build up and reveal. Brooker did the same with "White Bear". It's a commentary on how both the media portray these "monsters" and we, the public perceive them. Here Brooker makes us see a person first,
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                              a pedophile second. And it's not to our liking. Actually it's a long running theme from Brooker. Have you seen Brass Eye's "Paedogeddon" episode, which Brooker helped pen?

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                                laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 08:24 AM)

                                Think Chris Morris co-wrote this episode

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                                  Orlando_Gardner — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 09:58 AM)

                                  He did. Some partnership that.

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                                    laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 10:10 AM)

                                    Bloody amazing partnership. Still think brass eye is one of the rawest comedies ever on tv.

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                                      tb-sch — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 08:56 AM)

                                      Yep great writing. I love how that "but wait, why would he" moment before the robbery gets committed and everything falls into place with the last piece of the puzzle.

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                                        Paynebyname — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 08:17 AM)

                                        I never got the impression that the main guy was a Paedo. Releasing a video of him jerking off wouldn't show what stimulus material he was watching and hence I got the feeling that the 'looking at kids' was something that the 'controllers' would have added on to make his shame even greater.
                                        In my mind, he was simply whacking off to some porn but they fed on his insecurities and shame to carry out acts that were far more serious than the trivial (but potentially embarrassing) thing that he had done.
                                        Small moves Ellie, small moves

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                                          laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 08:25 AM)

                                          He was. That's the whole point. I'd rewatch it.

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