Beastie Boys scene killed it for me
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martytamu27 — 9 years ago(August 19, 2016 12:15 PM)
Agreean d calling it classical music? dumb dumb dumb.
if you played the scene on its own, it would have made a nice music video maybe.
but it was beyond dumb and stupid to interject it into a star trek film and use it to save all mankind. they had been setting it up the whole flick though when they showed the alien girl listening to it in the ship she found or whatever -
imaintdan — 9 years ago(August 20, 2016 06:43 AM)
Why's the classical music bit dumb?
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martytamu27 — 9 years ago(August 20, 2016 09:07 AM)
Cause classical music will always be classical music. Beastie boys will never be called classical music no matter how far in the future one goes. In 200 years why would the works of Bach and Mozart have become lost and teplaced with something that doesn't even resemble classical on any form? It's been 200 years or more now and classical is still classical. We don't call music from the 20s classical now and never will. Why would we in a mere 200 years more?
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martytamu27 — 9 years ago(August 20, 2016 01:17 PM)
No it's not. Your just using a literal definition. Classical is a genre that transcends it's literal meaning. Beastie boys 200 years from now will be defined by an era. Like music from the 20s or 50s or 80s has. Or the 70s. All bygone eras, but they're not defined as classical.
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xDracavelix — 9 years ago(August 21, 2016 09:14 AM)
The specific definition of classical music is from the 1750-1830s emerging from the Renaissance era. There are college courses specifically for this genre of music and period in world history.
I doubt the teachings at starfleet academy would change standard education of periods in history just because another genre of music is old. (Beastie boys being rap)
Bar fights, motorcycles..rap music this is a far departure from star trek TV series at least.
Maybe I've become accustomed to Picard/Janeway portrayals of strict protocols aboard a starship. These films are decent in their own unique way. Just not what I've come to expect after watching DS9, TNG & voyager. -
brch2 — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 04:57 PM)
What was called Rock n' Roll in the '80s and before is already called Classic Rock. We don't know what they'll call any ere/genre of music until we get there.
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zoltan42 — 9 years ago(August 20, 2016 10:55 AM)
The reference to it as classical reminded me of the "Ah, the `Giants'" scene in Star Trek IV. It was clearly a joke about what things from the past filtered through to their present time after the turmoils in between those time eras, such as the world war the predated First Contact.
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martytamu27 — 9 years ago(August 20, 2016 01:19 PM)
If in the future the works stephanie Meyer and her pen name that wrote fifty shades of grey created are Giants of literature then civikization will have come to an end and anyone capable of inventing warp drive will no longer Exist and interstellar travel will not eirher
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davidreefer-386-785938 — 9 years ago(August 21, 2016 09:30 AM)
the beastie boys can't even exist in the star trek universe. They literally reference star trek in their lyrics. So the beastie boys are from a world where star trek was a tv show from the 60's that they watched as reruns in the 70's. Are they now saying that star trek is now our future? even during TNG they still persisted in the canon of the eugenics wars of the 1990's, and ill communication came out in 1994, right in the middle of the eugenics wars. khan was in the second kelvin timeline movie, so obviously they haven't abandoned that as canonical. this just shows poor knowledge of trek lore, poor knowledge of an audience, and not taking your material seriously enough. maybe the next one can have william shatner come back as tj hooker and he can ride on the hood of the enterprise with heather locklear. and it can be a big wink at the audience like, get it?
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Foot_of_Davros — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 02:53 AM)
Another joke, with reference to the "classical music" quote, is if we know look back just two films to ST09:-
When Kirk is zooming along in the "borrowed" Corvette, blasting out The Beastie Boys, I originally assumed we were to view that as showing young James Tiberius Kirk as being quite the rebel. Now, however, we are told that he was actually driving the three hundred year old vehicle listening to what was considered "classical" music.
We should therefore perhaps be viewing that scene as more akin to watching young Kirk teetering atop a penny-farthing, enjoying the sounds of Beethoven's mass in c major, or suchlike, emanating from a nearby gramaphone!
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