Marty Crane Should Have Died Around Season 5
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joyfarrah — 13 years ago(July 26, 2012 11:11 PM)
Precisley. And Martin was IMO the heart of the show. His problems with the boys were there, and he wasn't perfect, but he was teh one who had taught them what was good in them, as Niles says in one ep "where do you think I learned my ethics"
You could maybe write out Daphne but you simply could not write out Martin Niles or Frasier. -
Petty_Thug — 13 years ago(July 26, 2012 05:03 PM)
You make it sound like Martin was a one-dimensional character, just a grumpy old man gimmick. There was so much more to him than that. After a few seasons it was easy to share his joy and pain as much as Frasier or Niles.
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MargeGunderson-Brainerd — 13 years ago(December 20, 2012 03:27 PM)
Exactly! Martin is one more example (of many) where the show took what most would use as a standard comedy cliche and made it far better and the character with a lot more depth.
It's one of my worst pet peeves and applies in far too many comedies, where a secondary character has a particular career, or a physical handicap, or something, and every single line is related to that.
In lesser talented hands, Martin would respond only as a cop to every single situation or question, no matter how unrelated to police work, and refer to himself as a cop every conversation. THAT version of Martin, I would have had to agree with the OP, only bumping him off by about the second or third season. -
forthesafetyofpuppies — 13 years ago(July 26, 2012 01:40 PM)
Sitcoms very seldom go for such big developments; such as killing a key character off, when the dynamic of the show is working so well. The contrast of crabby, simple-tastes Dad with haughty, elitist sons provided a lot of chuckles.
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