Marty Crane Should Have Died Around Season 5
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Petty_Thug — 13 years ago(July 26, 2012 05:03 PM)
You make it sound like Martin was a one-dimensional character, just a grumpy old man gimmick. There was so much more to him than that. After a few seasons it was easy to share his joy and pain as much as Frasier or Niles.
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MargeGunderson-Brainerd — 13 years ago(December 20, 2012 03:27 PM)
Exactly! Martin is one more example (of many) where the show took what most would use as a standard comedy cliche and made it far better and the character with a lot more depth.
It's one of my worst pet peeves and applies in far too many comedies, where a secondary character has a particular career, or a physical handicap, or something, and every single line is related to that.
In lesser talented hands, Martin would respond only as a cop to every single situation or question, no matter how unrelated to police work, and refer to himself as a cop every conversation. THAT version of Martin, I would have had to agree with the OP, only bumping him off by about the second or third season. -
forthesafetyofpuppies — 13 years ago(July 26, 2012 01:40 PM)
Sitcoms very seldom go for such big developments; such as killing a key character off, when the dynamic of the show is working so well. The contrast of crabby, simple-tastes Dad with haughty, elitist sons provided a lot of chuckles.
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happipuppi13 — 13 years ago(July 27, 2012 04:11 PM)
Martin was great!
He kept Frasier's big ego in line and also gave him a greeat does of life's reality when he needed it too.
He could still punish his sons & take them to task for behaving like over-grown spoiled children. (Who spoiled themselves oddly enough).
The show at the start was about Frasier mending fences with im and like MArtin said "That takes years,not a few days". Martin could also be hilarious,especially when Fraier has tried to be so "smaet" but only embarasses himself.
Martin : "You thought a monkey was the killer?"
Or how about telling Frasier to as for the Fine Arts dept. of the local police,when Frasier gets cheated in an art deal?
Martin had almost totally mellowed by the final 3 seasons. I was glad to see him land Ronee (Wendy Malick of "Just Shoot Me") and get a new wife.
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forthesafetyofpuppies — 13 years ago(July 27, 2012 04:41 PM)
Or how about telling Frasier to as for the Fine Arts dept. of the local police,when Frasier gets cheated in an art deal? [
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"Dad. Dad, they're laghing at me.."
Very possibly my favourite Martin moment.
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deliaw1946 — 13 years ago(July 28, 2012 03:00 PM)
Hi, LaneMarie! Don't get here as much as I used to. Working now several hours a day (mostly on my feet). Don't like job but needed to supplement SS payment since got laid off couple of year ago (age discrimination of course) Dont have computer in my apt. have to go to location in building where they have wi-fi Sometimes just need to relax and watch TV before going to bed as I have to get up at 4! Just don't have energy to check computer. OK, I DON'T agree. As much as I disliked the old coot, I think he did serve a purpose and some of his storylines were funny (Sherry for example). Hope things going well for you and all IMDB'ers on this board.